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lcsdds
I'm curious what most people find to be more difficult out of these 3 techniques. Mine is definitely AP. Legato and tapping just seem to come much easier to me than AP. smile.gif
Outlaw2112
legato is the hardest for me... ap is fine and tapping is ok thanks to eruption,ap is fine because i grew up playing alot of metallica from their kill em all and ride the lightning albums
djohnneay
I think the technique i will struggle most with is bending.

AP is fine, doesn´t need to be fast (yet), legato goes well enough, tapping seems to be going fairly good....

Bending however is a whole other story.
When I bend, I can´t seem to get it a clear note out, am not able to mute my other strings, and it takes ages figuring out which fret I´m bending to. Not to mention impossible to do vibrato while bending.
The bad part of this is, I really like bending.

Out of the 3 techniques you mentioned however, I would say legato, because I don´t seem to use it very often.
lcsdds
It's interesting.....when I listen to everybody's takes in the collabs it seems like legato and tapping are used the least. I have heard some takes on here of people who seem to have great AP chops.
fkalich
QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 25 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm curious what most people find to be more difficult out of these 3 techniques. Mine is definitely AP. Legato and tapping just seem to come much easier to me than AP. smile.gif


Legato is definitely the easier of the three when you have cats crawling all over you.
JamesT
AP is the hardest for me by a lot. My bending is pretty good since I spent a lot of time with it early on. Legato, is good as far as left hand goes, but I need to work on smoothness and evenness ...like with a metronome making sure I'm playing 16th, 16th triplets, 32nds, etc instead of just slurring a bunch of notes together. I can do tapping, but need a better "vocabulary" with it. And sweeps are new to me. Sweeps are fun and helping my right hand skills a lot.
AlexLion
QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 26 2009, 06:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Legato is definitely the easier of the three when you have cats crawling all over you.

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Well to me 2 handed tapping is most hard and sweeps with slides/tap are horrible at the moment, but oh well, it progress somehow.
superize
Legato and tapping is harder for me especially pull offs.... I have practised AP very much and can play it pretty good. Tapping i havent practised that much so i am not so good at that.....
Andrew6
I started off playing a lot of maiden/metallica so my picking and legato are alright I find my bends are where I get hurt the most and sometimes rhythm laugh.gif
Artemus
AP above 150-160bpm for me, especially if there's string skipping. Also tapping if it involves a lot of position shifts and wide interval string changes or if it's 8 finger tapping - the problem is muting the unwanted strings. I know what to do but it takes me a LOT of practise and I'm a long way off being any good with those techniques
Legato I like and I'm happy to say I'm fairly good at but only thanks to learning lots of Satriani numbers.
wrk
AP, ... hopeless!
I should practice tapping more and switch to a Chapman stick .. that would be an elegant way out of my troubles with AP laugh.gif


Chris Evans
I`d go with tapping for me, I`m fine with certain licks, adding a few tapped notes to the end of a sweep etc, but tapping licks accross several strings have me stumbling, something I`m working on at the moment to improve though! smile.gif
vampire18
personally im finding legato the most difficult but is not really right because i practiced ap a hack of a lot more.
tapping and im guessing you mean 3 or to finger tapping(like eruption) is fairly easy to master. i think that if you take 2 weeks and learn krises lessons and than take on eruption you can become a fairly good tapper. out of the three its definitely the easiest to master.
Rapitap
I dont know, yet. blink.gif
Andrew6
QUOTE (vampire18 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
personally im finding legato the most difficult but is not really right because i practiced ap a hack of a lot more.
tapping and im guessing you mean 3 or to finger tapping(like eruption) is fairly easy to master. i think that if you take 2 weeks and learn krises lessons and than take on eruption you can become a fairly good tapper. out of the three its definitely the easiest to master.

Tapping is such a broad topic though if you look at some of Juan's or Aleksander's lessons it gets pretty extreme blink.gif
Marek Rojewski
I am poor at everything dry.gif My AP is better than my other techniques, but it can't be said it is good.
lcsdds
QUOTE (vampire18 @ Mar 26 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
personally im finding legato the most difficult but is not really right because i practiced ap a hack of a lot more.
tapping and im guessing you mean 3 or to finger tapping(like eruption) is fairly easy to master. i think that if you take 2 weeks and learn krises lessons and than take on eruption you can become a fairly good tapper. out of the three its definitely the easiest to master.

If you are talking about eruption type licks then I agree about about tapping being the easiest. Try playing the Vai tapping lick I posted in another thread and tell me if you think it is the easiest to master. laugh.gif tongue.gif Same thing with AP...I am pretty good on a single string but when I start doing runs and crossing strings then not so good anymore. tongue.gif

QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Mar 26 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I`d go with tapping for me, I`m fine with certain licks, adding a few tapped notes to the end of a sweep etc, but tapping licks accross several strings have me stumbling, something I`m working on at the moment to improve though! smile.gif

What has you stumbling Chris? Is it changing strings by doing left hand hammers?

QUOTE (wrk @ Mar 26 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AP, ... hopeless!
I should practice tapping more and switch to a Chapman stick .. that would be an elegant way out of my troubles with AP laugh.gif

I actually bought an Alto chapman stick Andy....sold it after a week....it was NOT easy at all. tongue.gif laugh.gif
wrk
QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 26 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I actually bought an Alto chapman stick Andy....sold it after a week....it was NOT easy at all. tongue.gif laugh.gif

hm .. was a nice dream .. will try to find my picks back in the garbage and continue to practice AP laugh.gif


berko
8 FINGER TAPPING blink.gif wacko.gif

I know Monte that you're a legato God I've seen your vids. I'm, on the other hand, an AP fan, and I really need to improve on my tapping&legato skills. It's interesting that doing taps with the right hand already made my picking more easier! It gives strength to the picking hand and compared to tapping, picking for me becomes much more relaxed. IMO all techniques can help other techniques a certain way - it's hand coordination after all.
Chris Evans
QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 26 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What has you stumbling Chris? Is it changing strings by doing left hand hammers?


String muting when changing strings, if for example a tapping lick accross 3 or 4 strings I dont get them clean enough, the actual tapping and hammering on etc is ok its just the muting side of it, any tips?
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Mar 26 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
String muting when changing strings, if for example a tapping lick accross 3 or 4 strings I dont get them clean enough, the actual tapping and hammering on etc is ok its just the muting side of it, any tips?

That is quite difficult to keep clean...I guess that's why so many pro tappers use a string dampener of some kind!

I still think it's possible to keep clean without a dampener though - with correct left hand finger angle to dampen unwanted thinner strings, and the top of your left hand fingertips to damp unwanted thicker strings.

edit - I find AP to be hardest as well. I find legato easiest because the right hand can do so much muting work.
Chris Evans
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Mar 26 2009, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is quite difficult to keep clean...I guess that's why so many pro tappers use a string dampener of some kind!

I still think it's possible to keep clean without a dampener though - with correct left hand finger angle to dampen unwanted thinner strings, and the top of your left hand fingertips to damp unwanted thicker strings.

edit - I find AP to be hardest as well. I find legato easiest because the right hand can do so much muting work.


That was my thoughts on it with regard to using a dampener, I want to do it cleanly "without" one, I shall continue to work on it concentrating on left hand muting, thanks for the tip smile.gif
Crazyfret
mmmm interesting question. Not great at most things so find them difficult wink.gif

I'd prob go for tapping, sweep picking and economy picking / string skipping as I hardly use them because I'm not proficient to incorporate them into a collab to torture fellow GMC'ers laugh.gif
Ivan Milenkovic
I would say tapping is hardest for me, I rarely practice that technique.
Storm Linnebjerg
Legato and tapping is by far easier than alternate picking for me as well smile.gif
JVM
I've always had trouble with alt picking, but legato came quickly to me. Tapping I haven't even gotten into yet. I intend to, as I really need to begin diversifying my technique. Legato is one of the few things I'm really good at, all but the hardest legato passages are doable for me. Alternate picking on the other hand, begins to fall apart at higher speeds. I'm working on it, and definitely showing improvement though. Maybe learning tapping is what I need, to improve my coordination.
Canis
Legato is the hardest for me. AP and Tapping isn't much of a problem anymore ^^
vampire18
QUOTE (Andrew6 @ Mar 26 2009, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tapping is such a broad topic though if you look at some of Juan's or Aleksander's lessons it gets pretty extreme blink.gif


it is true that tapping has many lvls but what i meant was that if you take a non guitar player and tell him to study a lvl 5 alternate picking solo, a lvl 5 legato and a lvl 5 tapping. tapping would probably be the one he would complete the fastest and easiest.
Pedja Simovic
Legato and Tapping far easier then Alternate picking - if we are talking about insane tempos and rhythms here smile.gif
Artemus
QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Mar 26 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was my thoughts on it with regard to using a dampener, I want to do it cleanly "without" one, I shall continue to work on it concentrating on left hand muting, thanks for the tip smile.gif


This is my goal too and also a technique that I seem to progress with really slowly. LH muting down at the bridge I can handle well enough with concentration and practise but when I have to mute up over the fretboard I struggle - not so much for pentatonic stuff or where tapping lick just go from string to string but more for things like tapped arpeggios where I'm tapping/hammering-on strings that aren't adjacent
lcsdds
QUOTE (Artemus @ Mar 26 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is my goal too and also a technique that I seem to progress with really slowly. LH muting down at the bridge I can handle well enough with concentration and practise but when I have to mute up over the fretboard I struggle - not so much for pentatonic stuff or where tapping lick just go from string to string but more for things like tapped arpeggios where I'm tapping/hammering-on strings that aren't adjacent

I think with tapping that LH muting is VERY important. When doing "hammer-ons from nowhere" it is important to try and use the tip of your left hand index to mute adjacent stings. Muting is definitely the biggest challenge with tapping. I think if you practice doing runs across all 6 strings you will get used to positioning your RH properly. Just a lot of practice I guess....just like anything else. smile.gif
Artemus
Yeah, I whole-heartedly agree. Muting is so very important. Well, I assure you I'm practising this (as I have for the past few years - slow progress as I said)
Bogdan Radovic
AP seems to me like a hardest technique of those 3 definitly smile.gif
helo92
for me legato is the hardest
ErikEklund
alternate picking is definitly the hardest smile.gif
TheOldOnes
When I joined GMC 8 months ago, I was unable to AP, legato was a little better (but not by much) and tapping was limited to knowing the intro to Paschendale by Iron Maiden. Because of the amazing number of good AP lessons here, I've come along way in that regard. My tapping repertoire has improved but I think I will try learning eruption to get it going. Legato hasn't changed much for me but I suspect it would improve immensely if I took advantage of some of the lessons here.
Matt23
Tapping since I've never really done much practice on it.
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