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Tolek
Hey everybody,
I´m looking for a notebook by Apple which I´m going to use during my guitar studies in London (and later of course tongue.gif). I´ve not much experience with Apple and that´s why I´m asking you.
Does a "music notebook" exist? (I mean a macbook with Logic and other music material) If not, what would be the best alternative? Buying Logic and a normal Macbook?

Every help is welcome. smile.gif
Thanks,
Tolek
Muris Varajic
I think you can order any Macbook with software you prefer using Apple Online Store.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop...ACBOOKPRO-INDEX

Select any model that fits you by price and configuration
and you'll be guided to next step when you choose software you want. smile.gif

edit: old me...typo. biggrin.gif
Crazy_Diamond
I don't think it comes together. If you buy it online you can combine some software tho and they have deals for students. I would buy a Macbook Pro with Logic at your place. Logic is an awesome software and pretty easy to use (after reading a bit). It won't be complicated at all to install Logic once you have your computer.

If you have any questions on mac I'm here to help!
Rated Htr
I bought a macbook pro so, if it fits me, it will also fit you Tolek
Muris Varajic
What I linked you earlier was MacbookPro.

Here is the same thing for Macbook but seems like they offer one size only, 13".
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop...W-MACBOOK-INDEX

QUOTE (Crazy_Diamond @ Oct 18 2009, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you have any questions on mac I'm here to help!


How about Windows on Mac?? laugh.gif
Crazy_Diamond
QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 18 2009, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How about Windows on Mac?? laugh.gif


Hahaha Muris, I was expecting to get that kind of answer tongue.gif
Tolek
Wow, great help here, thanks! smile.gif

Is it better to buy a customized MacBook or a standard one plus Logic Studio?
Crazy_Diamond
It really depends on what you want to achieve with your mac. Each time I was trying to create one for myself it came to a price wwwwaaaayyyyyy to expensive. I think that with a macbook Pro you are going to have plenty of power to do what ever you want. I have made an HD movie in the past and I did all the editing on a Macbook Pro and everything worked perfectly. Currently I am on a normal macbook an I feel it miss a bit of power.

I would definetely go to a MacBook Pro(there is a few models) and buy Logic.
Tolek
What I basically want to do is music. smile.gif Recording, mixing, etc.

Btw, does the macbook have an input for my guitar cable? Or do I have to buy an interface?
VinceG
Yeah, I'd go with a Macbook Pro 15" or 17" if you want to do some music stuff on your computer. It's much more powerful than a normal Macbook Pro 13".
audiopaal
QUOTE (Tolek @ Oct 18 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I basically want to do is music. smile.gif Recording, mixing, etc.

Btw, does the macbook have an input for my guitar cable? Or do I have to buy an interface?

I have a cable from Monster Cables, that goes straight into my line-in (Macbook Pro 15"), and I can record with zero latency in Garageband and it's built in guitar amp sims and effects smile.gif
Works great smile.gif

I'll find the link for you!
Crazy_Diamond
I use a line6 guitar port interface to record my guitar. u usually record it dry and put some effects from Logic and Line 6 after. I also have something calle a iMic wich I can plug my guitar straight in the computer but it doesn't work well. I prefer the Line 6 interface.
Emir Hot
If you're going to the same school as Rated then you'll be using Cubase. No need for Mac as you can install it on PC laptop as well (much cheaper). Buy some external USB soundcard and you're all set.
Tolek
QUOTE (audiopaal @ Oct 18 2009, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a cable from Monster Cables, that goes straight into my line-in (Macbook Pro 15"), and I can record with zero latency in Garageband and it's built in guitar amp sims and effects smile.gif
Works great smile.gif

I'll find the link for you!

Thanks! smile.gif I have a POD Studio UX1 interface (just realized it biggrin.gif). I think it´s gonna work, as well. However, such a cable would be more practical. Let´s have a look at it! smile.gif
Is Garageband a preinstalled software?

QUOTE (Crazy_Diamond @ Oct 18 2009, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I use a line6 guitar port interface to record my guitar. u usually record it dry and put some effects from Logic and Line 6 after. I also have something calle a iMic wich I can plug my guitar straight in the computer but it doesn't work well. I prefer the Line 6 interface.

Oh, I have a Line6 POD Studio. I think it´s gonna work. smile.gif

QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Oct 18 2009, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you're going to the same school as Rated then you'll be using Cubase. No need for Mac as you can install it on PC laptop as well (much cheaper). Buy some external USB soundcard and you're all set.

ohmy.gif
As you know, I plan to attempt the ICMP. Rated said they´re using Logic... huh.gif
Crazy_Diamond
QUOTE (Tolek @ Oct 18 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Garageband a preinstalled software?


Oh, I have a Line6 POD Studio. I think it´s gonna work. smile.gif


Yes and yes...

Tolek
QUOTE (Crazy_Diamond @ Oct 18 2009, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes and yes...

Ok, great, thanks a lot! smile.gif
Rated Htr
QUOTE (Tolek @ Oct 18 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ohmy.gif
As you know, I plan to attempt the ICMP. Rated said they´re using Logic... huh.gif


Thanks what they told me, they even said Cubase is for girls laugh.gif
Bogdan Radovic
I would get the "stock" Macbook and get the software later on. Regarding recording I guess you can use line in (and integral sound card) like Paal suggested but you may need some sort of portable external interface later on (like Pod studio ux1 and similar).
Crazy_Diamond
QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Oct 18 2009, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks what they told me, they even said Cubase is for girls laugh.gif


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jdriver
Don't forget Apple has a fairly significant student discount on both hardware and software.
Bogdan Radovic
QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Oct 19 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks what they told me, they even said Cubase is for girls laugh.gif


Ohhh ohmy.gif

I have been using girly software? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'll switch to Nuendo! wink.gif
Rated Htr
QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Oct 19 2009, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohhh ohmy.gif

I have been using girly software? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'll switch to Nuendo! wink.gif


They said everything but Logic and Sonar are for girls laugh.gif
Saoirse O'Shea
QUOTE (jdriver @ Oct 18 2009, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget Apple has a fairly significant student discount on both hardware and software.


Correct - you just need to be registered at a recognised and participating educational institution and be able to supply appropriate proof. Also some Apple suppliers are specialised audio ones and may well be able to advise and help (and maybe offer a discount) on integrating a Mac with Logic. There's a few such 'solution experts' in the UK and it may be worth talking to one first.

Whether or not Logic (or any other sequencer) is right for you depends on your needs - including compatibility with your hardware and integration with yours and other people's set ups - and how you adjust to its workflow.
maharzan
Note that newer macs have firewire 800 which might be a problem if you are connecting an audio interface. Although, You can use USB. I had a similar problem thats why pointing it out.
Muris Varajic
QUOTE (audiopaal @ Oct 18 2009, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a cable from Monster Cables, that goes straight into my line-in (Macbook Pro 15"), and I can record with zero latency in Garageband and it's built in guitar amp sims and effects smile.gif
Works great smile.gif

I'll find the link for you!


Maybe he could use just a jack/adapter 2.5mm to 3.5mm.



QUOTE (maharzan @ Oct 19 2009, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Note that newer macs have firewire 800 which might be a problem if you are connecting an audio interface. Although, You can use USB. I had a similar problem thats why pointing it out.


Could be.
But Firewire 800 and 400 send the same type of signal,
it's just the speed and jack that is different.
I just bought 800 to 400 cable in case I ever need to plug 400 device
with my laptop.
There is also adapter only available, without cable.



ErikEklund
I have a macbook and logic 9, I can really recomend it to you Tolek smile.gif
Saoirse O'Shea
QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 19 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe he could use just a jack/adapter 2.5mm to 3.5mm.





Could be.
But Firewire 800 and 400 send the same type of signal,
it's just the speed and jack that is different.
I just bought 800 to 400 cable in case I ever need to plug 400 device
with my laptop.
There is also adapter only available, without cable.


True Muris.

I think the issue with firewire on the new macs has been because of the actual firewire interface that Apple chose to use rather than the speed. There have been a lot of reported cases that firewire audio works best with a Texas chipset and Apple (and quite a lot of pc manufacturers) have not used this. Older macs have a Texas chipset and so generally don't have issues.
Pedja Simovic
Tolek at Berklee they sell mac laptops that come with built it music software which students use at Berklee all the time. I would strongly suggest you check that out smile.gif
Muris Varajic
QUOTE (tonymiro @ Oct 19 2009, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True Muris.

I think the issue with firewire on the new macs has been because of the actual firewire interface that Apple chose to use rather than the speed. There have been a lot of reported cases that firewire audio works best with a Texas chipset and Apple (and quite a lot of pc manufacturers) have not used this. Older macs have a Texas chipset and so generally don't have issues.


Yeah, I heard about some audio drops as well.
Will see how it works when I plug 400 to 800. smile.gif
Tolek
Good ideas here, thanks. I have to think about them for a while. smile.gif

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Oct 19 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tolek at Berklee they sell mac laptops that come with built it music software which students use at Berklee all the time. I would strongly suggest you check that out smile.gif

Do you have any link? smile.gif
Muris Varajic
http://www.berklee.edu/computers/5_waivers.html

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Pedja Simovic
I see Muris already gave you the link Tolek. Call them and see if you can order it somehow or at least find out exact specification so you can get one for yourself smile.gif
Tolek
Thanks a lot! smile.gif That sounds really interesting. I just read that I have to be an enrolled student in order to get a Laptop package, so this has to wait a bit.
Muris Varajic
QUOTE (Tolek @ Oct 19 2009, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks a lot! smile.gif That sounds really interesting. I just read that I have to be an enrolled student in order to get a Laptop package, so this has to wait a bit.


So you can apply for that program even if you study at different University?
Tolek
QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 19 2009, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you can apply for that program even if you study at different University?

Oh, unfortunately no. Just read about it again and realized it. sad.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE
Only currently enrolled students at Berklee qualify to purchase the Berklee Laptop Package.
Muris Varajic
QUOTE (Tolek @ Oct 19 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, unfortunately no. Just read about it again and realized it. sad.gif laugh.gif


Yeah, I thought so.
I remember when I was looking for my Macbooc Pro,
Pedja also suggested me the same so I would had to
ask someone who is studying at Berklee to do me a favor. smile.gif
Tolek
QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 19 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I thought so.
I remember when I was looking for my Macbooc Pro,
Pedja also suggested me the same so I would had to
ask someone who is studying at Berklee to do me a favor. smile.gif

Hehe. smile.gif So, if you had waited a bit longer, you could get your laptop from me, maybe. wink.gif Berklee is not excluded of my choice... It´s also a great university.
It´s so difficult to choose now... I have to ask Pedja about Berklee (to get some idea what it is like) and read about it a lot. I still have some time left. smile.gif
Marcus Siepen
I am a PC guy, I never had a mac, but the macbook pro for sure is a good computer, just slightly too expensive wink.gif And logic is a good system for sure too, I used it back then when they still supported windows.
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