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Phil66
Hello folks, I'm thinking of upgrading my music laptop. I don't really need a laptop but I don't have room for a second desktop tower. I've come across these and wonder what your thoughts are.

Any advice/opinions gratefully received, thanks.

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/p...s-kits/nuc.html

I would likely purchase from HERE something like THIS spec but with 512gb SSD and 32gb ram.

I just want to be able to swap it with my laptop, for the record, my laptop only has 3 usb ports and an hdmi out.

It needs to come in at around £850 before tax.

Thanks in advance of your help, I keep wondering if I'm missing something that is staring me in the face as to why I can't just swap it over, obviously there will be the set up but I'm hoping there is some quick way of cloning the hard drive from one to the other, somehow, maybe huh.gif

Cheers

Phil
Todd Simpson
This one of the NUC mini PCs is just about in the price range at $895. 16gb ram but can go up to .
https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/p...uc8i7bekqa.html

Should service your needs and not take up too much space. smile.gif

For just a pinch more money you can get a killer ASUS 17inch laptop with a 6 core intel chip and much better graphics processer. Intel integrated graphics are notoriously lame. It's about a grand.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RTNG5FJ/ref=ps...1_t2_B07CD3MRZFhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RTNG5FJ/ref=ps...1_t2_B07CD3MRZF
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You can find plenty of laptops for that price.
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 11 2019, 06:15 AM) *
Hello folks, I'm thinking of upgrading my music laptop. I don't really need a laptop but I don't have room for a second desktop tower. I've come across these and wonder what your thoughts are.

Any advice/opinions gratefully received, thanks.

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/p...s-kits/nuc.html

I would likely purchase from HERE something like THIS spec but with 512gb SSD and 32gb ram.

I just want to be able to swap it with my laptop, for the record, my laptop only has 3 usb ports and an hdmi out.

It needs to come in at around £850 before tax.

Thanks in advance of your help, I keep wondering if I'm missing something that is staring me in the face as to why I can't just swap it over, obviously there will be the set up but I'm hoping there is some quick way of cloning the hard drive from one to the other, somehow, maybe huh.gif

Cheers

Phil
Phil66
Thanks Todd

Do you think a laptop will be better value? I'm just thinking I'm paying for a screen that I don't need, my current laptop goes to my main monitor.

Cheers

Phil
Mertay
Maybe you should post in a computer forum. Your finding seems quite new while Todd's option has the word "gaming" in it which usually scares me biggrin.gif
Phil66
Hmmmm, I know I want 3ghz cpu quad core and at least 16gb ram, not worried about graphics as it will only be doing my music based stuff, I have a home built tower for other stuff. I just like the size of these NYC computers.
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 12 2019, 10:58 AM) *
Hmmmm, I know I want 3ghz cpu quad core and at least 16gb ram, not worried about graphics as it will only be doing my music based stuff, I have a home built tower for other stuff. I just like the size of these NYC computers.


There are arguments on web suggesting the graphics card has a role in gaining lesser computer latency; https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-compu...comparison.html

Gaming computers usually have boosts for cpu which can be a potential nightmate for recording stability.

So thats why I suggest asking to a music computer based forum.
Phil66
Cheers, I'll look for one smile.gif
Phil66
Posted here https://homerecording.com/bbs/general-discu...de-time-402562/

smile.gif
Todd Simpson
The "Gaming" laptops (seems to scare Mertay for some reason) typically have higher performance specs than "non gaming" laptops. They are machines that typically outlast their non gaming brethren as they usually have some of the best/fastest hardware available.

I too plug my laptop in to a 50 inch HD monitor. I don't typically use the laptop screen. However, it can be handy to have a screen that is attached to the machine itself in various scenarios. For example, if you do need to move the unit for whatever reason at some point, it's self contained. Also if you do need a secondary monitor (E.G. a output monitor for editing video so that you can use the main monitor for actual editing. Also, it is only a bit more expensive than the NUC box and it's got WAY better specs especially for graphics. For video editing, having a good graphics card is very important. The integrated graphics in most one piece box computers are CRAP as they are typically intended to be used as a media computer for playback, not as production machines for heavy lifting. But it's up to you in the end to get whatever you feel comfy with. Or if the word gaming scares you like Mertay, then avoid gaming machines smile.gif

If I were to get a one piece unit I would probably get a Mac Mini. it can run window or mac osx and has solid hardware.

Then again, you can get a used macbook pro (which is what I used) and also run windows or Mac osx. My quad i7 16gm ram 1tb sst was only $700 and LOGIC was $200 so I had a Pro Quality machine with the same software used in many pro shops all over the world for under $1,000. IT would be 750 pounds. But some folks are just not "mac people" and don't want to learn a new OS and a new DAW so if that's you, just grab a powerful gaming laptop as they are typically just more beefy and can be more upgradable, have better graphics, etc.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 12 2019, 01:24 AM) *
Thanks Todd

Do you think a laptop will be better value? I'm just thinking I'm paying for a screen that I don't need, my current laptop goes to my main monitor.

Cheers

Phil
Mertay
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 12 2019, 11:57 PM) *
The "Gaming" laptops (seems to scare Mertay for some reason) typically have higher performance specs than "non gaming" laptops. They are machines that typically outlast their non gaming brethren as they usually have some of the best/fastest hardware available.


If a typical system is a brand sports car, gaming computers are more like modified Japanese cars so its not as simple as more power is better:

Fan noise; Its not like in a desktop you can fit a bigger fan to reduce noise, gaming laptops generate way more heat (cause of overclocking) so this can be a real issue.

Overclock (turboboost); Overclocking has a risk of stability even for playing games, when recording if it activate/de-activates you're basically screwed. It's something to seriously consider or avoid specifically for music production, likely all computers branded gaming has this feature.

Graphics card; A decent one is needed even for music specific computers, with gaming though not only you get one you'll never use its potential but it will generate unnecessary heat or extra fan noise (no fan vs 2-3 fans for graphics card).

Bundled software; To manage this overclocked system extra software is needed means the system uses extra ram you could have use for production. Disabling them is riskier compared to a normal operating system, often bios adjustments needed and anything can go wrong.
Phil66
Thanks Mertay,

My main reasons for the upgrade are speed of video rendering, I know my videos are usually small but when time is tight it will help, and the other thing is, I'd like to try Helix Native again, it was terrible on this machine, cracking and popping and loads of latency.

Cheers

Phil
Phil66
How about this specced up to 16gb ram and i7 with 500gb ssd

https://www.carillonac1.com/daw-computers/m...-laptop-core-1/

Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 13 2019, 05:10 PM) *
How about this specced up to 16gb ram and i7 with 500gb ssd

https://www.carillonac1.com/daw-computers/m...-laptop-core-1/


Reputation of company seems very good, some bad posts about them on forums but I consider normal. I have no idea though about how their pricing compares to a comparable different brand. Since it will be the first time you'll buy from them, just incase check their return policy too.
Todd Simpson
looks like mertay has you sorted. Let us know what you end up getting!

BTW the reason folks often grab gaming laptops is the better video card gpu helps in editing and exporting video. A good gaming laptop, from a reputable vendor is as stable as any non gaming laptop, just faster at editing/exporting video and faster in general. Then again, it may be just more machine that you need. The one you found build by carillion I think it was is probably just fine.smile.gif I can say that my dual core integrated graphics macbook air is CRAP compared to my quad i7 16gb ram and nvidia graphics card. The faster machine is 7 years old and still keeps pace with modern software. But it's nearing the end of the line. 32 gb ram and 6 core chip are going to become standard for production machines as a sort of min spec.

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How about this specced up to 16gb ram and i7 with 500gb ssd

https://www.carillonac1.com/daw-computers/m...-laptop-core-1/
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Phil66
Thanks Todd.

I'm in that zone now where I'm thinking "aaaaaaagh".

What to do what to do what to do. Option paralysis will probably stop me buying now laugh.gif
Mertay
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 14 2019, 07:13 AM) *
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GPU I won't argue, its really about the needs but when I assembled my computer at the time specifically looked for a non-fanned option cause didn't care for video/games so avoided extra noise, system drivers and expense. With desktop you can get away with noise by liquid-cooling but for laptop's this has to be given thought, cause unlike a desktop the machine itself is physically closer you and when the time comes cleaning the fan(fans with depending on video card) isn't as easy either.

But for cpu; Theory is about getting the same speed with either a less expensive/weaker CPU by overclocking, or paying more for a non-overclocked newer cpu. In reality this is what the market offers in a nut-shell with gaming vs standard computers (aside video card difference). It's only media company computer's that gets overclocked right from the start but those machines are way out of our budget or needs. You can by the way boost your mac like this too but notice the warning at the end of the video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FEWgqw4ykk its not intel turbo boost but gives the idea, this won't switch on/off like turbo boost and screw live playing or recording but you have risks.

I'm also sure this overclocking stuff got better since I looked into things deep last time I was in the market but still consider it a (not hardware but system stability) risk. Companies simply don't care much about low latency audio recording when combining hardware or developing various models for the market. We have to be more careful than the average joe.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 14 2019, 09:13 AM) *
What to do what to do what to do. Option paralysis will probably stop me buying now laugh.gif


Also ask this forum, its very active; https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-compu...thread-292.html
jstcrsn
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 13 2019, 06:10 PM) *
How about this specced up to 16gb ram and i7 with 500gb ssd

https://www.carillonac1.com/daw-computers/m...-laptop-core-1/

I have a gaming laptop and it does exactly what Mertay said And I never knew why, it has the same specs as this one however it looks like there is no boost and is set up for music in mind rather than gaming . The one I have does not have thunderbolt connection and I am mad that I spent that much money and don;t have that option . More and more units are coming out with thunderbolt and I would look for the same model with thunderbolt
Todd Simpson
Just to be clear I"m not suggesting anyone buy an overclocked/overclockable machine for music. Never have never will. Those systems are not meant for music production in general. The only turbo boost I recommend is the Intel built in turbo boost which is just a way for the chip to save energy when not under load, per previous post. wink.gif Phil is recording guitar, mostly direct. So having a cpu fan is not gonna be a deal killer imho. If he were recording lots of vocals and needed a hyper quiet record room, then that would be a different story but even then, a small mic isolator would do the trick, so fan noise from a laptop, probably not gonna be an issue.
I did suggest he avoid intel integrated graphics as they are just a big underwhelming. Most any decent laptop these days will offer some kind of video card that's decent built in to it. Most video editing apps lean more and more on the GPU so it's a good way to decrease render time by having a good GPU and a fast CPU.
I would suggest a laptop over a desktop as the price gap has gotten much more narrow than it used to be and I would not suggest phil build a computer from parts. This is a good way to create headaches that can be avoided and warranty work gets tricky as well. A laptop is easy to move, easy to send back to the vendor if need be for repair or upgrade or whatever, and easy to relocate should one wish to record in a different room, different house, whatever. So yeah, I'd say get a decent laptop and for what you are looking to spend, you can get a nice one smile.gif I'd say go with a vendor that you have heard of before as you don't want some small vendor when it's time for warranty work, should warranty work ever come up.

For example, here is a Lenovo Think Pad for $1400 US with quad core i7, 32gb ram, 500 gb ssd and quadro graphics card. Nothing overclocked, no blaring fans as far as the reviews can tell us, just a blazing fast machine. from a reputable vendor.

THINKPAD


QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 14 2019, 10:41 AM) *
GPU I won't argue, its really about the needs but when I assembled my computer at the time specifically looked for a non-fanned option cause didn't care for video/games so avoided extra noise, system drivers and expense. With desktop you can get away with noise by liquid-cooling but for laptop's this has to be given thought, cause unlike a desktop the machine itself is physically closer you and when the time comes cleaning the fan(fans with depending on video card) isn't as easy either.

But for cpu; Theory is about getting the same speed with either a less expensive/weaker CPU by overclocking, or paying more for a non-overclocked newer cpu. In reality this is what the market offers in a nut-shell with gaming vs standard computers (aside video card difference). It's only media company computer's that gets overclocked right from the start but those machines are way out of our budget or needs. You can by the way boost your mac like this too but notice the warning at the end of the video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FEWgqw4ykk its not intel turbo boost but gives the idea, this won't switch on/off like turbo boost and screw live playing or recording but you have risks.

I'm also sure this overclocking stuff got better since I looked into things deep last time I was in the market but still consider it a (not hardware but system stability) risk. Companies simply don't care much about low latency audio recording when combining hardware or developing various models for the market. We have to be more careful than the average joe.



Also ask this forum, its very active; https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-compu...thread-292.html
Phil66
That looks great Todd, thanks.

I've been looking at this today, what do you think Todd and Mertay?

https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs...top-no-firewire

I'd spec a 500gb SSD and 16gb RAM. Scan have been around for a long time and have a good reputation. HERE is the info about their studio computer design.

How do you think it compares to the one I mentioned HERE?

Cheers

Phil
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 15 2019, 07:39 PM) *
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You've definitely done your homework, awesome smile.gif

Both are reputable companies and likely spec.ed for audio to a point probably we can all learn a thing or two:) so I'll say they seem dependable to me.

I didn't see any problem with your spec.s so its really up to you with the rest of the options at this point.
Todd Simpson
I"ve never heard of either of these vendors so I really can't help much on that front. The machine you specd looks good! Both builds are from folks who focus on creating gear for audio production which is good too. I could not find what the carrilion is using for it's video card? Can you see that info? maybe I missed it. Of the two of them the SCAN folks seem to have a bit better build in that they clearly state which video card is used and they explain the rational behind their builds. If you have heard of scan and they have a good rep in your area it seems like a good way to go. smile.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 15 2019, 03:39 PM) *
That looks great Todd, thanks.

I've been looking at this today, what do you think Todd and Mertay?

https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs...top-no-firewire

I'd spec a 500gb SSD and 16gb RAM. Scan have been around for a long time and have a good reputation. HERE is the info about their studio computer design.

How do you think it compares to the one I mentioned HERE?

Cheers

Phil
Phil66
Cheers,

And so you think it will run Helix Native?

I'm going to spec up to 32gb ram and 500gb ssd, do you think it's worth going for Win10 Pro instead of home

Phil


QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 16 2019, 12:40 AM) *
I"ve never heard of either of these vendors so I really can't help much on that front. The machine you specd looks good! Both builds are from folks who focus on creating gear for audio production which is good too. I could not find what the carrilion is using for it's video card? Can you see that info? maybe I missed it. Of the two of them the SCAN folks seem to have a bit better build in that they clearly state which video card is used and they explain the rational behind their builds. If you have heard of scan and they have a good rep in your area it seems like a good way to go. smile.gif
Phil66
Nudging this up, need help wink.gif
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 16 2019, 09:37 AM) *
Cheers,

And so you think it will run Helix Native?

I'm going to spec up to 32gb ram and 500gb ssd, do you think it's worth going for Win10 Pro instead of home

Phil


Could you remind what was your previous problem with helix native?

For hardware logically it should work fine with a new computer, I'm not sure if you need 32gb of ram instead of 16gb (won't help audio but maybe for video can be used to speed-up, just guessing though) but if budget allows why not. As for win pro or home, I'd ask the line6 forum for advice.
Phil66
When I tried Native it just crackled and popped, terrible it was.
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 16 2019, 09:50 PM) *
When I tried Native it just crackled and popped, terrible it was.


I see, to be honest it could be anything so really hard to guess sad.gif
Todd Simpson
Should run it just fine. I ran helix native on my quad core i7 wiht 16gb of ram. So yeah, the machine your talking about should have no problem at all. I was able to run it in my daw and record a bit with every single patch without it glitching.

As for win pro it depends on if you need the features. If you read the feature list and none of them make sense, then you probably don't need them.
https://www.partitionwizard.com/partitionma...0-home-pro.html

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 16 2019, 05:50 PM) *
When I tried Native it just crackled and popped, terrible it was.
Phil66
Thanks guys,

Native isn't the only thing, when I use my Web cam for quick videos it's drops the frame rate because of "lack of resources", I also get latency when using any plug in and I can't handle latency, it does my head in blink.gif

Cheers
Todd Simpson
This should sort all of that out. smile.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 17 2019, 03:19 AM) *
Thanks guys,

Native isn't the only thing, when I use my Web cam for quick videos it's drops the frame rate because of "lack of resources", I also get latency when using any plug in and I can't handle latency, it does my head in blink.gif

Cheers
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 17 2019, 07:19 AM) *
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Yeah just keep the new computer as clean as possible by strictly using it for audio-video. Don't even install a web-browser if possible.
Phil66
Just had a chat with them, 4:30 on a Saturday and they're available. He went and looked at Native, and reckons the 16gb will handle using Native with live video recording no problem. Very helpful, gave me a lot of confidence, didn't push any extras or upgrades, explained that it's fine to add hard drives yourself, explained how to do it and said it wouldn't invalidate the warranty.

For what it costs extra I think I'll go for Win10 Pro, 500gb os drive, just deciding whether to go straight into 32gb ram because if I need it later I'll end up selling the 16 for next to nothing.

I'll have to install a Web browser for access to GMC during my practise time because my desktop causes so much interference it's unreal.

Cheers


UPDATE: I can buy it without an OS which will reduce it by £130 for Pro. I can get a license from HERE for £20. Is it worth making an install usb and doing it that way? I've never installed from USB, can you see any problems?
jstcrsn
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 17 2019, 05:14 PM) *
Just had a chat with them, 4:30 on a Saturday and they're available. He went and looked at Native, and reckons the 16gb will handle using Native with live video recording no problem. Very helpful, gave me a lot of confidence, didn't push any extras or upgrades, explained that it's fine to add hard drives yourself, explained how to do it and said it wouldn't invalidate the warranty.

For what it costs extra I think I'll go for Win10 Pro, 500gb os drive, just deciding whether to go straight into 32gb ram because if I need it later I'll end up selling the 16 for next to nothing.

I'll have to install a Web browser for access to GMC during my practise time because my desktop causes so much interference it's unreal.

Cheers


UPDATE: I can buy it without an OS which will reduce it by £130 for Pro. I can get a license from HERE for £20. Is it worth making an install usb and doing it that way? I've never installed from USB, can you see any problems?

I think it is usb connectivity , I would look into getting one with a thunderbolt . It might not be the problem , but Like I said " i paid that much money and don't have that option
Phil66
QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 17 2019, 06:51 PM) *
I think it is usb connectivity , I would look into getting one with a thunderbolt . It might not be the problem , but Like I said " i paid that much money and don't have that option


Thanks buddy but isn't Thunderbolt for Apple connections? I don't have anything Apple.

Cheers

Phil
Todd Simpson
USB 3 is fine for PCs smile.gif THunderbolt can be had on both, but most pcs and pc peripherals are set for usb 3 to be honest. As for your OS, buying an OEM copy of the os without buying a new machine from the same people is sketchy. They are not supposed to sell oem OS without selling a machine with it. Without an OS, how can the builder test your machine? If you have issues, who is to blam? The OS vendor or the builder? To be honest, sounds like a headache waiting to happen. I'd avoid it but it's your rig you gotta to what you think is best.
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 17 2019, 02:56 PM) *
Thanks buddy but isn't Thunderbolt for Apple connections? I don't have anything Apple.

Cheers

Phil
Phil66
Tomorrow I'm going to ask them about it, their support is open 10:00 to 16:00 on Sundays. From what I've read, they do a full test with the os and then just wipe the hard drive for sale,

Todd Simpson
Sounds like a plan wink.gif Only issue is who to blame when some error pops up. Both vendors will point to the other guy and say it's their fault. I've had it happen. But if it's worth the saving to live with the risk then go for it smile.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 17 2019, 06:05 PM) *
Tomorrow I'm going to ask them about it, their support is open 10:00 to 16:00 on Sundays. From what I've read, they do a full test with the os and then just wipe the hard drive for sale,
Phil66
I'll let you know later, I've used SoftwareGeeks before for a Win7 license with no issues. I have a Win10 install USB that I made with the Microsoft Windows Media Creator Tool.

I want it to be legal though.
Phil66
I spoke to them, I said I was thinking of getting the softwaregeeks.co.uk license and said "what do you think", his answer was, "I would recommend getting Windows 10 from ourselves with the system pre-installed or purchased directly from Microsoft". So there were no accusations that the licences are dodgy but his answer said it all without totally losing the sale to them which also indicates that they aren't comfortable with SG.

I then asked, it off interest, if they still test when supplying without OS, he said "Yes we still do all the same testing and benchmarks, we simply just don't install Windows. We do this by installing test version of Windows on the drive and wiping before shipping".

I also said that a lot of the time I record live from webcam to HD while recording audio from a different source and would the Samsung Evo ssd be better than the Intel as it is quicker, I have an Evo at the moment, he said "If you're recording direct to SSD, a faster drive would likely make a difference. The samsung evo drives are very high-end and top quality in my opinion, having owned one myself in my personal system and they are likely the most popular drive we install in 3XS systems too".

Great support, 9am - 10pm Mon to Fri, 10am-6pm Saturday and 10am-4pm Sunday.
Cheers
Phil66
Well, it's ordered. My current laptop came with a 256ssd but I put a 500gb Evo in so I'll swap that back and use the 500gb EVO in my new one as storage. Hopefully their aftersales is as good as their pre-sales, not always the case but we'll see. They do seem on the ball though. Glad I went with them, check out their audio section https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/music-and-pro-audio


3XS Scan Performance 17" - Studio Laptop (No Thunderbolt) - Pre Order
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LN91305 2 x*3XS Only* 16GB Module DDR4 SODIMM 2666Mhz C18 VENGEANCE
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LN853373XS Microsoft H17-10001 GML Win Logo
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£1313.92
Mertay
Cool smile.gif
Phil66
QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 18 2019, 09:16 PM) *
Cool smile.gif

I ordered it five times laugh.gif I kept on panicking and taking it out of the basket laugh.gif
Todd Simpson
Sorted!
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 18 2019, 03:56 PM) *
Well, it's ordered. My current laptop came with a 256ssd but I put a 500gb Evo in so I'll swap that back and use the 500gb EVO in my new one as storage. Hopefully their aftersales is as good as their pre-sales, not always the case but we'll see. They do seem on the ball though. Glad I went with them, check out their audio section https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/music-and-pro-audio


3XS Scan Performance 17" - Studio Laptop (No Thunderbolt) - Pre Order
LN64660*3XS LOGO* 16GB Kingston USB3 Pendrive for Windows Recovery Media
LN91305 2 x*3XS Only* 16GB Module DDR4 SODIMM 2666Mhz C18 VENGEANCE
LN563803XS 17" AUDIO LAPTOP - NO FW
LN853373XS Microsoft H17-10001 GML Win Logo
LN619093XS System Build
LN715403XS Systems 7 Day Technical Support
LN860903XS Welcome Pack
LN86912Included with your new 3XS system
LN95872Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB M.2 PCIe High Performance NVMe SSD/Solid State Drive
LN97452NH70RAQ 17.3" (FHD/ WVA / N7/ 144HZ) I7-9750H GTX 1650 4GB RGB KEYBOARD INTEL 9260AC+BT COMBO wi-fi
LN46869Scan 3XS Laptop - Build, Config & Test
LN46859Scan 3XS laptop warranty, 1st year C&R all parts, 2nd year RTB excl screen, battery and HDD
LN55098System
LN66206Windows 10 Professional DPK FQC-08797
£1313.92
Phil66
32gb ram is overkill by its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

I blew the budget by around £200 but that always happens. It was a budget in the head rather than necessity so I'm happy and it should last me a while now.

UPDATE:

Just my luck, had an email, the shipment of chassis is held up, they are waiting for a container load of chassis via ship and it will be middl of September. I can wait but you know what us blokes are like, I want it NOW rolleyes.gif
Mertay
Any info where its shipping from?

OT but I heard because of Brexit companies in Turkey which export to England are working overtime to supply demand. I guess if Brexit goes bad there's some expectation shipment from other countries might be problematic for a while there.
Phil66
QUOTE (Mertay @ Aug 19 2019, 08:36 PM) *
Any info where its shipping from?

OT but I heard because of Brexit companies in Turkey which export to England are working overtime to supply demand. I guess if Brexit goes bad there's some expectation shipment from other countries might be problematic for a while there.


OT?

The shop is coming from Taiwan buddy. I can wait, the company seem very good and these things do happen.

Cheers
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 20 2019, 07:31 AM) *
OT?

The shop is coming from Taiwan buddy. I can wait, the company seem very good and these things do happen.

Cheers


"out of topic", good just wanted to give a heads-up cause of this brexit thing.
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