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jstcrsn
QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 16 2019, 10:38 PM) *

the endless smoking and smoke filled studio rooms had nothing to do with it
Great guitarist ... mindless twit
Todd Simpson
Smoking will kill you. It's just a matter of time sad.gif Nearly killed my Dad before he had part of a lung removed. Keeping a smoldering cancer stick against your tongue while you play a 2 hour show every day for decades seems just a bit unsmart. Still, it's a tragedy and he's a legend.
QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 16 2019, 05:38 PM) *
Adam
My uncle had some misfortune happen to him and he was a smoker. He needs to take hormone injections for the rest of his life and can't do some things he used to like. I asked my mom why won't he quit in his condition, to which she responded that it's his only entertainment now. I don't know how much time has passed but I talked to him about this and other things and not only I helped him find a new hobby but also I helped him quit smoking. I'm really happy about it because he's my favorite person outside my closest family. I've already lost 3 distant family members to cigarettes and alcohol and personally I'm quite strict about it.
Mertay
That holding pick thing does make sense though, sometimes I do that with picks or changing strings will change that habbit...then there's also this; biggrin.gif

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news...ckinson-6374976
AK Rich
I have been seeing quite a few stories about Eddie's health lately in the news feed on my phone. I guess he is in denial as to why he is having problems but it seems pretty clear to me being a former smoker myself for over 35 years and contracting Lung Cancer. There is no question in my mind as to where it came from.
I don't know if he still smokes or not but from what I have heard about him, he wasn't just a smoker, but a heavy smoker and a chain smoker where you use the last bit of one cigarette to light the next one and so on.

Since I was diagnosed, I have lost two good friends to Lung Cancer. The last was a fellow band mate. I just played at his Celebration of Life on Sunday at a local bar.
If you smoke. Do yourself, your family and your friends a favor and do whatever you can to quit because it's just not worth it no matter how much you enjoy it. Smoking kills.

PS: For me, it took being diagnosed with Lung Cancer to finally quit smoking. Don't be "that guy."
jstcrsn
QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 17 2019, 09:34 AM) *
That holding pick thing does make sense though, sometimes I do that with picks or changing strings will change that habbit...then there's also this; biggrin.gif

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news...ckinson-6374976

as a connoisseur of scientific medicines ... I think I need some thorough research before I can come to a scientific conclusion on this matter
fkalich
QUOTE (AK Rich @ Oct 17 2019, 12:12 PM) *
I have been seeing quite a few stories about Eddie's health lately in the news feed on my phone. I guess he is in denial as to why he is having problems but it seems pretty clear to me being a former smoker myself for over 35 years and contracting Lung Cancer. There is no question in my mind as to where it came from.
I don't know if he still smokes or not but from what I have heard about him, he wasn't just a smoker, but a heavy smoker and a chain smoker where you use the last bit of one cigarette to light the next one and so on.

Since I was diagnosed, I have lost two good friends to Lung Cancer. The last was a fellow band mate. I just played at his Celebration of Life on Sunday at a local bar.
If you smoke. Do yourself, your family and your friends a favor and do whatever you can to quit because it's just not worth it no matter how much you enjoy it. Smoking kills.

PS: For me, it took being diagnosed with Lung Cancer to finally quit smoking. Don't be "that guy."


Good to hear from you. I know you mentioned this, but is seems like maybe 2 years ago? They have made great strides. I've been lucky so far, no serious medical issues, hope things go well for you.

My best friend, a smoker, died of colon cancer. I used to smoke, hell even right before I was in triathlons, long courses at that. I had tried to quit many times, but couldn't give it up. But my last smoke was on the day of my friends "Celebration of LIfe" 22 years ago. Not out of fear for myself, but because they had killed my best friend. I never even wanted one after that.
Todd Simpson
It's very sad to see all our heroes starting to get old and fall victim to the ravages of time/age. It's always sad. Every week we get more news that some guy in a band that we all respect is dead or dying. I hope it's a wake up call to the next generation.
AK Rich
QUOTE (fkalich @ Oct 17 2019, 04:20 PM) *
Good to hear from you. I know you mentioned this, but is seems like maybe 2 years ago? They have made great strides. I've been lucky so far, no serious medical issues, hope things go well for you.

My best friend, a smoker, died of colon cancer. I used to smoke, hell even right before I was in triathlons, long courses at that. I had tried to quit many times, but couldn't give it up. But my last smoke was on the day of my friends "Celebration of LIfe" 22 years ago. Not out of fear for myself, but because they had killed my best friend. I never even wanted one after that.


Thank you, fkalich. I finished 13 and a half months of treatment about 8 weeks ago, 6 weeks of radiation and chemotherapy followed by a year of immunotherapy but unfortunately after all of that, and all the scans that showed promising results, in the end I received some bad news that was like a punch in the gut.

The good news was that the main tumor and the affected lymph nodes in my chest that were being treated were gone and all that remained from the tumor in my lung was some scar tissue. The bad news was that somehow during all of that treatment, the cancer had escaped to the lower part of my body.

A PET/CT scan about 6 weeks after my treatment had finished revealed some activity in my small intestine, adrenal glands and right hip. The only indication of this in the earlier scans was from back in December after my last PET/CT where my adrenal glands lit up slightly.
My oncologist requested an upper endoscope and MRI to take a closer look at what was going on. The endoscope showed some inflammation in the small intestine (Duodenum) but no lesions or mass and the surgeon took a couple biopsies and sent them to a lab which showed positive results for the proteins related to the lung cancer. Those biopsies were then sent to another lab for further analysis to determine a course of action as to the kind of additional treatment that will be needed.

So, next week I will see my oncologist again at which time he will have those additional lab results and the results of the MRI and until then I won't know what's next but it sounds like it could be more chemotherapy infusions or maybe just a pill to take. The one thing I do know is that what was once curable is now only manageable and now the goal has changed from curing the cancer to trying to put it into remission.

And so the fight goes on.
Todd Simpson
Let's add RICH to the list of HEROES that are refusing to give in to Cancer. Kick it in the Ass!!!

Todd
QUOTE (AK Rich @ Oct 18 2019, 12:42 PM) *
Thank you, fkalich. I finished 13 and a half months of treatment about 8 weeks ago, 6 weeks of radiation and chemotherapy followed by a year of immunotherapy but unfortunately after all of that, and all the scans that showed promising results, in the end I received some bad news that was like a punch in the gut.

The good news was that the main tumor and the affected lymph nodes in my chest that were being treated were gone and all that remained from the tumor in my lung was some scar tissue. The bad news was that somehow during all of that treatment, the cancer had escaped to the lower part of my body.

A PET/CT scan about 6 weeks after my treatment had finished revealed some activity in my small intestine, adrenal glands and right hip. The only indication of this in the earlier scans was from back in December after my last PET/CT where my adrenal glands lit up slightly.
My oncologist requested an upper endoscope and MRI to take a closer look at what was going on. The endoscope showed some inflammation in the small intestine (Duodenum) but no lesions or mass and the surgeon took a couple biopsies and sent them to a lab which showed positive results for the proteins related to the lung cancer. Those biopsies were then sent to another lab for further analysis to determine a course of action as to the kind of additional treatment that will be needed.

So, next week I will see my oncologist again at which time he will have those additional lab results and the results of the MRI and until then I won't know what's next but it sounds like it could be more chemotherapy infusions or maybe just a pill to take. The one thing I do know is that what was once curable is now only manageable and now the goal has changed from curing the cancer to trying to put it into remission.

And so the fight goes on.
AK Rich
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 18 2019, 11:32 AM) *
Let's add RICH to the list of HEROES that are refusing to give in to Cancer. Kick it in the Ass!!!

Todd


Hero? I don't know about all that. I just a guy trying to survive and get some kind of normalcy back in my life, but thanks, Todd.
Todd Simpson
Anybody that fights cancer is a hero in my book. It's not giving in that makes one a hero. Keep up the good fight!
Todd
QUOTE (AK Rich @ Oct 19 2019, 01:29 PM) *
Hero? I don't know about all that. I just a guy trying to survive and get some kind of normalcy back in my life, but thanks, Todd.
Todd Simpson
The research is available from the national institutes of health concerning the relationship between HPV and cancer. Essentially, most people are "carriers" of HPV and don't present with symptoms. The common cold sore virus is directly linked to incidence of cancer.

Here is some info from cancer.net
  • Oral cancer. HPV can cause cancer of the mouth and tongue. It can also cause cancer of the oropharynx. This is the middle part of the throat, from the tonsils to the tip of the voice box. These HPV-related cancers are increasing in men and women. Changes in sexual behavior, including an increase in oral sex, may be contributing to the increase.
  • Other cancers. HPV is associated with less common cancers, including anal cancer, vulvar and vaginal cancers in women, and penile cancer in men.

https://www.cancer.net/navigating-cancer-ca.../hpv-and-cancer

Bruce is a really well read and intelligent man. He's spot on IMHO.

Todd
QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Oct 17 2019, 04:50 PM) *
as a connoisseur of scientific medicines ... I think I need some thorough research before I can come to a scientific conclusion on this matter
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