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Mertay
Will be released tomorrow...

Todd Simpson
I will be giving the free version a whirl for sure.

QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 28 2020, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Will be released tomorrow...

Mertay


Phil66
UI looks good, looks like the best bit of the others all put into one package, think it's about time to get rid of that old wooden floor though unsure.gif

I'll be trying it out but it has to be good to beat TH-U imho, especially at the price.
Gabriel Leopardi
Great looking!! It's nice to see this industry growing like that!! We are living really exciting times for guitarists!
Mertay
They made an odd announcement, I thought it was being released but turns out it may be released anytime in the next 3 months.

Previous version users are super confused and the poor sales guy is trying to answer all of their questions. On quick look, their upgrade path does seem complicated...

But yeah I'll at-least try the free version, they're pretty much giving away a jcm800 which is always fun to test.
Gabriel Leopardi
That's weird! I thought that it was already available.
Mertay
Music only video;



QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 30 2020, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's weird! I thought that it was already available.


Maybe its a strategic approach, everyone estimates winter will be hard not only virus related but economic too so they're getting preorders as soon as possible.
Phil66
I wonder what kind of power computer will be needed for low latency?
Todd Simpson
Here are the hardware requirements. Needs 64bit and open gl 2 graphics card and 3 GB of space on your hard drive!



Mac® (64-bits)

Minimal: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo (Intel Core i5 suggested), 4 GB of RAM (8 GB suggested), macOS 10.10 or later. 3 GB of hard drive space.

Requires an OpenGL 2 compatible graphics adapter.

Supported Plug-in formats (64-bit): Audio Units, VST 2, VST 3, AAX.
Windows® (64-bits)

Minimal: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo or AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 (Intel Core i5 suggested), 4 GB of RAM (8 GB suggested). Windows® 7 or later. 3 GB of hard drive space.

Requires an ASIO compatible sound card.
Requires an OpenGL 2 compatible graphics adapter.




QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 30 2020, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder what kind of power computer will be needed for low latency?

Phil66
Mine should be fine, I bet a lot of people buy things like this and TH-U without realising the hunger of the program.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 30 2020, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are the hardware requirements. Needs 64bit and open gl 2 graphics card and 3 GB of space on your hard drive!



Mac® (64-bits)

Minimal: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo (Intel Core i5 suggested), 4 GB of RAM (8 GB suggested), macOS 10.10 or later. 3 GB of hard drive space.

Requires an OpenGL 2 compatible graphics adapter.

Supported Plug-in formats (64-bit): Audio Units, VST 2, VST 3, AAX.
Windows® (64-bits)

Minimal: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo or AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 (Intel Core i5 suggested), 4 GB of RAM (8 GB suggested). Windows® 7 or later. 3 GB of hard drive space.

Requires an ASIO compatible sound card.
Requires an OpenGL 2 compatible graphics adapter.

Todd Simpson
Very true! I noticed that some bits reminded me of THU! It seems the little company from Italy is influencing guitar plugins smile.gif It won't be as good as THU from the look of it, but they have added dual signal paths etc. I'll still download and try it smile.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 31 2020, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mine should be fine, I bet a lot of people buy things like this and TH-U without realising the hunger of the program.

Mertay
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 31 2020, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very true! I noticed that some bits reminded me of THU! It seems the little company from Italy is influencing guitar plugins smile.gif It won't be as good as THU from the look of it, but they have added dual signal paths etc. I'll still download and try it smile.gif


They claim 600 ir's per cabinet yet still make it possible to load your own, I'm most curious about this feature.

But from the looks of it and what I remember of amplitube, its strength is in numbers=more expensive bundle's unlike the affordable thu options. I'm also curious how it will sell as since a few years now the trend went boutique/specialized solutions instead of big boys like amplitube.
Mertay
Seems its released
Todd Simpson
is it just me or is the UI starting to look a bit like OVERLOUD THU?


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2020, 06:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UI looks good, looks like the best bit of the others all put into one package, think it's about time to get rid of that old wooden floor though unsure.gif

I'll be trying it out but it has to be good to beat TH-U imho, especially at the price.

Phil66
There is a free version (not trial) that gives you the basics and you can buy components as you go along.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/amplitube5cs/

Interesting, maybe you all knew but I didn't, when you set up an account there is a tick box that says "I hereby authorize Fender Musical Instruments Corporation to process my personal data for marketing purposes, limited to products developed under the Fender license"

You also get this free https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?id=freememoryv

UPDATE:
Immediate reaction it seems too complicated, TH-U was so easy out of the box, I think it has a much steeper learning curve than TH-U but not necessarily super hard. I can't see how to get a demo of the MAX version, I've installed the Custom Shop but it's pretty limmited.
Mertay


Looks like a design made for ipad, I guess to have more screen space (as ipad/phone screens are small) everything is accessed by parts/sections. Yeah I also find it un-intuitive.

Demo's sound very good, a pleasant studio-room sound so new cab.s does seem to make a difference. But there is a heaviness to the tones I just can't see myself feeling good when playing fast stuff. Maybe backing guitars AT and solo's THU would make a cool combo, but imho 1 choice makes things way less complicated.
Phil66
Uninstalling it, I'm not liking the UI at all sad.gif
Mertay
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 27 2020, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uninstalling it, I'm not liking the UI at all sad.gif


+1

After a bit more testing, their preset mentality isn't working for me either. With THU (and likely kemper though I never used one), presets based on amp is much better for me. With amplitube its like a synth preset database like genre, neck pickup...no thanks.

Also I had a feeling they are much less devoted to making high-gain tones and cleans often drowned by fx. It's not like there aren't cools sounds in there but I guess not for me mostly.
Phil66
QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 27 2020, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
+1

After a bit more testing, their preset mentality isn't working for me either. With THU (and likely kemper though I never used one), presets based on amp is much better for me. With amplitube its like a synth preset database like genre, neck pickup...no thanks.

Also I had a feeling they are much less devoted to making high-gain tones and cleans often drowned by fx. It's not like there aren't cools sounds in there but I guess not for me mostly.


Yep, it's odd that when you close it down it asks if you want to save the SONG!!!!!

TH-U is just like having a room full of gear and patch cables and your own guitars, much better for me, Amplitube, for me, is just too convoluted huh.gif It's a strange piece of software imho
Todd Simpson
I just tried it and I think they are trying to copy THU a bit. It's odd though that when you put a pedal in the chain, you see it in the main window, then that switched to the head or cab when you add one. Also, very limited choices on the demo. One per category. It's enough to get you started if you don't have a plugin that does it all like THU, I tried the new custom shop and it's just confusing imho. I still like the old AMPLITUDE METAL which I bought years ago. But I never use it as it just doesn't sound as good as OVERLOUD THU. Then again, nothing sounds as good as overloud THU IMHO in terms of plugins. But that's just my ears. They are a very small company in Italy. The only thing I don't like is that there is not preset cloud where you can download wads of presets built by regular people. But, I am familiar enough with it to build my own presets. They are based on some of the metal presets. I use the 3 stack of parametric eq from one of stock presets in all my patches. Also, put a parametric at the head to tighten up the signal.

IMHO they have made VERSION 5 a bit too confusing and the custom shop is now confusing as well. It's not for me.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 27 2020, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, it's odd that when you close it down it asks if you want to save the SONG!!!!!

TH-U is just like having a room full of gear and patch cables and your own guitars, much better for me, Amplitube, for me, is just too convoluted huh.gif It's a strange piece of software imho

Phil66
Todd,

Where did you download the demo that you can add pedals too? I've only managed to download the custom shop crap version.

Cheers
Phil
Todd Simpson
I downloaded the IK product manager. It lets you get all of the IK products you want to try and it tracks all of you purchases. smile.gif The screen grab is from the limited time demo of AMPLITUBE 5.

https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/productmanager/

It seems they have really made all of their interfaces a bit confusing for no good reason. Custom shop didn't make a lot of sense in this current version and the amplitube 5 demo is only functional for a short time. Very limited set of gear to start with. I can't recommend it anymore.


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 28 2020, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Todd,

Where did you download the demo that you can add pedals too? I've only managed to download the custom shop crap version.

Cheers
Phil
Phil66
I have got the 5 demo, I never noticed the little icon to the right of the "Search gear" box. Mine had an 'X' on it, if you click it will scroll through 'x' (unavailable gear) a tick (available gear) and both. I set it to the tick and it now shows some gear for me to try.

Still think I'm not going to like it though, regardless of the sounds, it has to be quick and simple to use.

UPDATE:

Nah, still don't like it. I know what Mertay means now about being designed for a table. Having to click "edit" to open up a big version of the pedal. It's slow swapping patches, it set the buffer to 256 every time I open it, maybe I would "save the song" to prevent that but that's not slick, unless there is a global setting somewhere.

Nope not for me, TH-U all the way wink.gif (At the moment anyway)
Mertay
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Dec 28 2020, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just tried it and I think they are trying to copy THU a bit. It's odd though that when you put a pedal in the chain, you see it in the main window, then that switched to the head or cab when you add one. Also, very limited choices on the demo. One per category. It's enough to get you started if you don't have a plugin that does it all like THU, I tried the new custom shop and it's just confusing imho. I still like the old AMPLITUDE METAL which I bought years ago. But I never use it as it just doesn't sound as good as OVERLOUD THU. Then again, nothing sounds as good as overloud THU IMHO in terms of plugins. But that's just my ears. They are a very small company in Italy. The only thing I don't like is that there is not preset cloud where you can download wads of presets built by regular people. But, I am familiar enough with it to build my own presets. They are based on some of the metal presets. I use the 3 stack of parametric eq from one of stock presets in all my patches. Also, put a parametric at the head to tighten up the signal.

IMHO they have made VERSION 5 a bit too confusing and the custom shop is now confusing as well. It's not for me.

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I checked a few forums and though some seems to like it, everybody is confused about demoing and upgrade policies. One comment writes one can't demo their new cab. tech without buying the 99 dollar version.

If you have amplitube metal, maybe ask their support about upgrade pricing. Not just demo if its good or bad but likely when amplitube 6 comes out you may not have a chance to update then.
Phil66
I'm leaving it alone now. Uninstalling it forever. cool.gif
Todd Simpson
Same here. I'm not even going to make a video review of it. I just didn't like it. Tried the new custom shop and th5. Bit of a let down, but hey, that's what THU is for!!


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 29 2020, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm leaving it alone now. Uninstalling it forever. cool.gif

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