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Kristofer Dahl
First a little background...

...it all started with Cael sharing some amazing chords + progression here. It inspired me to record a jam over it. Then Ken turned into a song foundation which inspired Gab to record a jam.

So it's safe to say we're all a little inspired šŸ˜

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I have started recording some vocals over Ken's backing, and I would like to try a new collab concept - where we work more actively together to build a song.

First, have a listen to what we have got so far:
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Vocals:
I really donā€™t need a statue
I really donā€™t like the smell
I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell



Now, try to think of what you could add to make this first verse sound better.

* maybe a super soft note played with a clean sound?
* maybe that one bent bluesy note?
* maybe a chord
* some rhythm scratch / strum?
* maybe a vocal harmony (using your guitar)
* maybe clap your hands
* maybe say/sing something?
* maybe some noise from your room / guitar
* a cool sound sample
* some virtual instrument from your DAW

As you can see I don't have any specific arrangement in mind, instead I will try whatever you send me - and use whatever I think works best for the song. Hint: it will likely not be a fast solo, especially in the beginning of the tune.

When we have found something that works for this first part we will continue with another song section, and hopefully move forward towards a finished tune in the end šŸ¤©

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For best results, be sure to send me a file without any reverb. However if you just want to share an idea, feel free to leave the reverb on.

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>>FINAL RESULT<<
Mertay
Honestly don't know why but when I thought vocals for it the first thing came to me was sweet child in time "haa-huu" section (from 1.50) laugh.gif maybe something like that could be used for outro.

Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 15 2021, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly don't know why but when I thought vocals for it the first thing came to me was sweet child in time "haa-huu" section (from 1.50) laugh.gif maybe something like that could be used for outro.



Yeah! That might also work well in between something or as a harmony
Gabriel Leopardi
Having some fun with this backing and with Kris ideas! I hope that this gives you some inspiration!!



Storm Linnebjerg
It seems like Gabriel worked on the full track from Ken in his videos. Can this be shared in the first post? Or do we have to work around your vocals in the 20 second audio clip? smile.gif

Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Apr 16 2021, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems like Gabriel worked on the full track from Ken in his videos. Can this be shared in the first post? Or do we have to work around your vocals in the 20 second audio clip? smile.gif


Is it this one you are thinking of? (we are using Ken's backing from your thread)
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=787542
Storm Linnebjerg
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 16 2021, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it this one you are thinking of? (we are using Ken's backing from your thread)
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=787542


Yes, that one. The original track by Ken is longer than the one you posted, which is only your vocal part. I don't know if it would inspire people to do something over the non-vocal parts if the full track was uploaded in the first post of this topic? smile.gif

EDIT: I just need to read the full post, heh. Sorry, I see what you mean now about working part by part smile.gif
Kristofer Dahl
Yes, if it turns out this idea does not generate any student takes - we can def do it as a normal collab (heck we could do that either way - if thereā€™s interest for two collabs using the same backing)
klasaine
My track was really just an idea or example.
Most of you guys have way more editing skills than me. Please feel free to loop it, cut it up, re-arrange it, re-record it, add to it, etc.
Gabriel Leopardi
My files!! There is a lot of stuff here. Use only the parts that inspire you. wink.gif

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Sensible Jones
Am I going mad?
Is there a D/L for the backing track?
I tried to D/L Kens m4a file but it keeps opening another page that's full of code!!!
ohmy.gif
Storm Linnebjerg
QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 17 2021, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I going mad?
Is there a D/L for the backing track?
I tried to D/L Kens m4a file but it keeps opening another page that's full of code!!!
ohmy.gif


Right click and "save as..." helps smile.gif
Sensible Jones
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Apr 17 2021, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right click and "save as..." helps smile.gif

Will try that! Thanks Cael!!
Kristofer Dahl
I have also recorded some examples to show you what kind of short phrases can help build a song arrangement:
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Here is the guitar only file:
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I am using the E MAJOR scale, and here is a quick transcription:

00:04
E---------------
B-7/------------
G---------------
D---------------
A---------------
E---------------



00:11
E---------------
B-7brp5---------
G---------------
D---------------
A---------------
E---------------


00:13
E---------------
B---------------
G-6-8---9-11-13-
D-x-x---x-x--x--
A-4-6---7-9--11-
E---------------


I won't be using my recording, so if you want to go ahead and record your own variations of these ideas it's totally fine!
Storm Linnebjerg
I'll play around with this maybe tonight or tomorrow - at the very least during the week.
Phil66
Here's a quick thing I came up with, it's more of a texture/rhythm combination.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-mix

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-guitar-only

It's only subtle but I feel it works as a texture kinda thing.

I think it needs a compressor on it but I'm not too good at setting them.

I'll try some more stuff in the week, time permitting.

Cheers
Mertay
Which satriani song was this? I couldn't remember the name rolleyes.gif

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Edit; found it

Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 19 2021, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a quick thing I came up with, it's more of a texture/rhythm combination.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-mix

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-guitar-only

It's only subtle but I feel it works as a texture kinda thing.

I think it needs a compressor on it but I'm not too good at setting them.

I'll try some more stuff in the week, time permitting.

Cheers


AWESOME!

I knew we would get some creative ideas! Please make this one downloadable so I can start experimenting with it!

QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 19 2021, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which satriani song was this? I couldn't remember the name rolleyes.gif

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Edit; found it


Yeah! That's such a classic tune from one of my all time fav instrumental albums.

If only I knew how to get his tone - it's really next to perfect here (if there is such a thing).

I also see some similarities arrangement wise - so I am sure this track can be an inspiration for us.
Mertay
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 20 2021, 06:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Ever since I heard Gab.s first jam can't get satch out of my mind since experimenting smile.gif
Phil66
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 20 2021, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AWESOME!

I knew we would get some creative ideas! Please make this one downloadable so I can start experimenting with it!


Sorted buddy, I always forget that rolleyes.gif When I first recorded it, I was listening back and thought "Hmmmm, I can't really hear it" then I muted the guitar track and un muted and I could hear it, it's a strange one how it sits there in the background. It's just the wound strings being played on an open E chord whatever that makes it, I don't know wink.gif

Glad you like it smile.gif
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 19 2021, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Sorry Mertay, I totally missed your take there -

Very cool satchy lines, this should be perfect for the coming verses when we will add more notes to the mix!

Could you send me the guitar only file?
Mertay
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 20 2021, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Oh that was just for giggles and throwing ideas for maybe inspiration rolleyes.gif I'll see what I can do...
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 20 2021, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ever since I heard Gab.s first jam can't get satch out of my mind since experimenting smile.gif



hahaha... Satch comes to my mind every time I hear this backing. BTW nice take mate!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 19 2021, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's a quick thing I came up with, it's more of a texture/rhythm combination.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-mix

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-guitar-only

It's only subtle but I feel it works as a texture kinda thing.

I think it needs a compressor on it but I'm not too good at setting them.

I'll try some more stuff in the week, time permitting.

Cheers



GREAT Phil! That's what we are talking about!! Well done!
Phil66
QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 20 2021, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GREAT Phil! That's what we are talking about!! Well done!


Thanks Gab,

Ya gotta serve the song not yer ego cool.gif laugh.gif
Mertay
My files. It's direct recording so feel free to use any amps, fx etc. smile.gif

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Kristofer Dahl
Very very nice!

Here is a mix where I included Mertay's lines. I placed them in between the vocals:
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I am saving Phil's idea for later on, in order to gradually build up the intensity of the arrangement.

I now need to record a continuation of the vocals, and will get back with an update.

In the meantime if anybody wants to keep recording on what we have so far, feel free to do so!
Gabriel Leopardi
It's sounding great Kris! Can't wait to hear more vocals over this one.
klasaine
I added some ambient, synthy stuff - hard left and right.
And an E-bow part - down the center.

Use what you want, or none of it.
*This is on my original track, not Kris' vocal version.

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Mertay
QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 21 2021, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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haheehahe that was the most psychedelic thing I heard in a while! had a huge smile while listening biggrin.gif
klasaine
QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 21 2021, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
haheehahe that was the most psychedelic thing I heard in a while! had a huge smile while listening biggrin.gif


Cool! I'm glad you like it.
Here is the 'ambient' stem/group solo'd. Kind of 'the Edge' on acid ...

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Storm Linnebjerg
I liked that a lot, Ken. I can see that working later on in the track, for sure!
klasaine
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Apr 21 2021, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I liked that a lot, Ken. I can see that working later on in the track, for sure!


Yeah, it'll pretty much work anywhere. All of it or part of it. Forwards or backwards.
The delay is gritty and grainy (Korg SDD-3000 plugin) but it is in time w/the track.
I sent Kris and Gab raw Wav files via email.
If any of you guys want raw files, just PM me.
AK Rich
QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 17 2021, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I going mad?
Is there a D/L for the backing track?
I tried to D/L Kens m4a file but it keeps opening another page that's full of code!!!
ohmy.gif

I get that too when I try to listen to it on my phone.
Edit: Nevermind! I downloaded it with a long press.
Kristofer Dahl
Very cool additional tracks Ken - I absolutely love the organic vibe!

I have recorded a longer version with more vocals. I have yet to add any more student takes, in order to give everybody the chance to participate. So if you get an idea which you think will make the song stronger - please give it a shot!

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Lyrics:
I really donā€™t need a statue
I really donā€™t like the smell

I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

I look at the colors of me
I feel like I missed a treaty

I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

Verbal diarrhea
Maternal xenophobia



Mertay
QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 21 2021, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool! I'm glad you like it.
Here is the 'ambient' stem/group solo'd. Kind of 'the Edge' on acid ...

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Yeah this one I also can come-up with a genre easily. It did remind me of vai's ballerina though (used to play this with my old digitech rp12 in the 90's, back then such technologically was a big deal for me smile.gif ).



PS; Could you render+share tracks as .mp3 or any other compressed format in the future? reaper seems to have problems with that format.
klasaine
QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 22 2021, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS; Could you render+share tracks as .mp3 or any other compressed format in the future? reaper seems to have problems with that format.


Sorry.
Will do next time.

Mertay
QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 22 2021, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Thx smile.gif
Todd Simpson
Just got to listening to this bit and wow nice!!



QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 21 2021, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I added some ambient, synthy stuff - hard left and right.
And an E-bow part - down the center.

Use what you want, or none of it.
*This is on my original track, not Kris' vocal version.

Click to view attachment

Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 22 2021, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very cool additional tracks Ken - I absolutely love the organic vibe!

I have recorded a longer version with more vocals. I have yet to add any more student takes, in order to give everybody the chance to participate. So if you get an idea which you think will make the song stronger - please give it a shot!

Click to view attachment

Lyrics:
I really donā€™t need a statue
I really donā€™t like the smell

I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

I look at the colors of me
I feel like I missed a treaty

I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

Verbal diarrhea
Maternal xenophobia




Cool! A new GMC hit is coming... biggrin.gif

Kristofer Dahl
YES! šŸ¤© I'm getting great vibes from this one
Storm Linnebjerg
Sorry, Kris, time flew by, and I haven't had time to sit down properly with it yet. I will do so soon smile.gif
Kristofer Dahl
Cool Cael, can't wait to hear what you come up with!

I have done more tweaks on the mix but I am hoping to see some more contributions. Anybody? šŸ¤—
Storm Linnebjerg
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 27 2021, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool Cael, can't wait to hear what you come up with!

I have done more tweaks on the mix but I am hoping to see some more contributions. Anybody? šŸ¤—


Time keeps flying by so fast!

Just a random suggestion to the track. Would it be interesting to have sort of a slower break down with arpeggiated chords? Not necesarily close to what I originally was playing, but just something more related to what Ken did. I thought that could be cool.
Kristofer Dahl
Yeah! As Ken also suggested, this tune needs at least another section to become a fully fledged tune.

Some kind of arpeggiated break could def be cool!
Sensible Jones
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 27 2021, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool Cael, can't wait to hear what you come up with!

I have done more tweaks on the mix but I am hoping to see some more contributions. Anybody? šŸ¤—

Will try to get something done at the weekend!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Todd Simpson
Me Too!!

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 27 2021, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Will try to get something done at the weekend!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Kristofer Dahl
Just a little update here - I have recorded another verse and included Phil's playing as fills (no pun intended šŸ˜ ).
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I really donā€™t need a statue
I really donā€™t like the smell
I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

I look at the colors of me
I feel like I missed a treaty
I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

Verbal diarrhea
Maternal xenophobia

The morning I rise is Autumn
The evening I fall is late
I donā€™t know if Iā€™m to seal my fate

Iā€™m naive and bald and weary
I havenā€™t seen the sun since many days
I feel like my life is a blurry haze
Todd Simpson
I keep overplaying this one. I need to work on my restaint it seems and this is a good way to do it. Not stepping on the vocal is a skill every player should have. "verbal diarhea" made me laugh smile.gif

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 6 2021, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just a little update here - I have recorded another verse and included Phil's playing as fills (no pun intended šŸ˜ ).
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Click to view attachment
I really donā€™t need a statue
I really donā€™t like the smell
I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

I look at the colors of me
I feel like I missed a treaty
I feel like itā€™s going straight to hell

Verbal diarrhea
Maternal xenophobia

The morning I rise is Autumn
The evening I fall is late
I donā€™t know if Iā€™m to seal my fate

Iā€™m naive and bald and weary
I havenā€™t seen the sun since many days
I feel like my life is a blurry haze

Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 6 2021, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I keep overplaying this one. I need to work on my restaint it seems and this is a good way to do it. Not stepping on the vocal is a skill every player should have. "verbal diarhea" made me laugh smile.gif


If it makes you practice restraint its already a success šŸ‘Œ
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