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Kristofer Dahl
Hi guys,

Tflava suggested we try jamming over a latin kind of setting - so I did some deep digging and found a cool backing in Guido's Carlos Santana style lesson.

I split it up into two sections which I think will work nicely for a call & response kind of thing:


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Either of these scales will work well:





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Try the harmonic minor scale here:




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* Bpm:100

* Key: C minor

* Record your take over part A and/or Part B

* export your take from the beginning of the backing track (aka "Point 0")

* For best results, send me your "guitar only" audio file without any reverb or delay. This way I will be able to make it sound like we are all jamming together.

I will record a response to your take asap and also mix everything so that you guys will be responding to each other.

Students and instructors can join!

There is no deadline, we can keep going for as long as the thread is active.

I hope you will like this idea & backing, I personally found jamming over it really inspiring! 😎

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FINAL RESULT:
Check it in our radio player or direct link.
tflava
Very nice man!
I will definitelyh join smile.gif
i think my first take would be next week because im little buissy at the moment
Phil66
In cool.gif
Todd Simpson
Sounds very cool!! Count me in smile.gif

Phil66
Here is my first take, it's a tricky backing for me but hey ho have a go wink.gif

I'll have a go at part B later on, I need to get used to the harmonic minor wink.gif

If you want me to reamp with a different tone I can, or I can send the raw guitar file wink.gif





Guitar only file if you prefer it this way Click to view attachment

Here is the TH-U Patch. I used it with a PRS SE Custom 24, neck pickup and tone rolled right off. Click to view attachment
Todd Simpson
Cool stuff! What are you using for tone here? is it a THU patch?

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 14 2021, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my first take, it's a tricky backing for me but hey ho have a go wink.gif

I'll have a go at part B later on, I need to get used to the harmonic minor wink.gif

If you want me to reamp with a different tone I can, or I can send the raw guitar file wink.gif




Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 14 2021, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is my first take, it's a tricky backing for me but hey ho have a go wink.gif

I'll have a go at part B later on, I need to get used to the harmonic minor wink.gif

If you want me to reamp with a different tone I can, or I can send the raw guitar file wink.gif





Awesome Phil - great lines!! Please send me the guitar only file so I can record a response (best is if you send me a file with the amp of your choice - but without reverb/delay).

QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 14 2021, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice man!
I will definitelyh join smile.gif
i think my first take would be next week because im little buissy at the moment


Excellent, and thanks so much for suggesting this theme 👌

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 14 2021, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds very cool!! Count me in smile.gif


Awesome Todd, can't wait to hear what you will play over this one!
Phil66
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 15 2021, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awesome Phil - great lines!! Please send me the guitar only file so I can record a response (best is if you send me a file with the amp of your choice - but without reverb/delay).!


Thanks Kris, glad you like it. The second Soundcloud is guitar only and download enabled, I didn't record with any reverb or delay anyway.

UPDATE: Ooops I forgot to mute the backing when rendering the guitar only. I'll sort it. Sorry rolleyes.gif

Please excuse the dodgy vibrato, I have a neck /shoulder injury that makes it difficult at the moment rolleyes.gif

If that's no use to you I can put the file here later on wink.gif

Cheers

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 15 2021, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool stuff! What are you using for tone here? is it a THU patch?


Thanks Todd, yes it is a TH-U patch but I accidentally rolled the tone all the way down on my guitar before I started looking for a patch, it's my PRS SE Custom 24 and the tone is also the coil tap knob and for some reason they always turn real easy.

I'll share the patch if you think it's worthy.

Cheers
Sensible Jones
I'm definitely in on this!!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Nice job Phil and accident or not that tone really fits!!!
Phil66
QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 15 2021, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice job Phil and accident or not that tone really fits!!!


Thanks buddy, probably worked out okay because I knocked the tone knob down before sorting the patch wink.gif

Cheers
Phil66
Okay, the Soundcloud guitar only is now in the original post here https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=792323 also a guitar only file if you prefer that and I've put a zip of the TH-U patch in.
Todd Simpson
Very cool patch!! Thanks for sharing in the THU patch vault!!


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 15 2021, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Kris, glad you like it. The second Soundcloud is guitar only and download enabled, I didn't record with any reverb or delay anyway.

UPDATE: Ooops I forgot to mute the backing when rendering the guitar only. I'll sort it. Sorry rolleyes.gif

Please excuse the dodgy vibrato, I have a neck /shoulder injury that makes it difficult at the moment rolleyes.gif

If that's no use to you I can put the file here later on wink.gif

Cheers



Thanks Todd, yes it is a TH-U patch but I accidentally rolled the tone all the way down on my guitar before I started looking for a patch, it's my PRS SE Custom 24 and the tone is also the coil tap knob and for some reason they always turn real easy.

I'll share the patch if you think it's worthy.

Cheers

Todd Simpson
Yup smile.gif Me getting my latin vibe on.

Kristofer Dahl
Thanks so much Phil, here is a first mix with my response. This track is so much fun to play over 😁

Click to view attachment

I also included an empty Part A in this mix, in case anyone wants to record a direct response.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 16 2021, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup smile.gif Me getting my latin vibe on.



Very cool Todd, please send me your guitar-only file 🤗
tflava
Very nice takes allready. Love the call and response take from phill and kris.
Also cool Fx on your take Todd.

Here is my take. i doubled the length because 20 seconds was a little short. hope its not a problem smile.gif




Greetz Tim
tflava
I will try to play it some groovier and use another tone so you Dont have to use this one. smile.gif
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 16 2021, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice takes allready. Love the call and response take from phill and kris.
Also cool Fx on your take Todd.

Here is my take. i doubled the length because 20 seconds was a little short. hope its not a problem smile.gif




Greetz Tim


Sounding great mate. I especially loved the intro melody!

I will record more responses tomorrow!
Phil66
Great response Kris again, showing me where I could have gone by adding the little ornaments cool.gif

Todd, I am impressed buddy, I was expecting shred but you restrained yourself, tasty cool.gif

Very sweet Tim, nice intro and great take cool.gif

tflava
Hello guys,

I recorded it again with another tone and some more groovie.



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Greetz Tim
klasaine
QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 17 2021, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello guys,

I recorded it again with another tone and some more groovie.



Click to view attachment

Greetz Tim


Very nice Tim!
Great tone and you played beautifully over the changes.
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 17 2021, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello guys,

I recorded it again with another tone and some more groovie.



Click to view attachment

Greetz Tim


Very nice, it just gets better! 😁 I love the sophisticated melodies and how you build towards climax.
klasaine
Latin grooves are really fun to play over. You can be jazzy and/or do a full-on Santana.

Parts:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment

With backing:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment
Kristofer Dahl
Awesome Ken, absolutely love that outside note choice! I cannot wait to get recording responses 😁😁
jstcrsn
it is catchy
Todd Simpson
Wow. Very cool stuff indeed!

QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 17 2021, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Latin grooves are really fun to play over. You can be jazzy and/or do a full-on Santana.

Parts:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment

With backing:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment

tflava
QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 17 2021, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice Tim!
Great tone and you played beautifully over the changes.


Thanks a lot Ken.
I really like your playing on these tracks.
Melodic as hell but i really like the tension jazz stuff you put over it 😎

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 17 2021, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice, it just gets better! 😁 I love the sophisticated melodies and how you build towards climax.


Thanks a lot. It isnt fully improvise but also not ful composed smile.gif a mix

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 18 2021, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is catchy


Nice tone man
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 18 2021, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is catchy

Groovy mate, awesome to have you in 👊
Caelumamittendum
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/

No backing, no effects: Click to view attachment
With backing: Click to view attachment
With backing and effects: Click to view attachment

I don't mind polishing it a bit more, but if you think it's fine then I suppose I'm okay with it. I do kinda want to add a pick up note for the last motif (that two bar thing), but my brain was getting a bit troublesome!

Can I do one for Part B as well or is it only one part? smile.gif
klasaine
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 18 2021, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/


That sounds great!
I say do one for part B as well.
Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 18 2021, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/


No backing, no effects: Click to view attachment
With backing: Click to view attachment
With backing and effects: Click to view attachment

I don't mind polishing it a bit more, but if you think it's fine then I suppose I'm okay with it. I do kinda want to add a pick up note for the last motif (that two bar thing), but my brain was getting a bit troublesome!

Can I do one for Part B as well or is it only one part? smile.gif


Sounds absolutely beautiful Cael, def go for part B as well!
jstcrsn
QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 18 2021, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks a lot Ken.




Nice tone man

thanks, it's actually a metal amp in bias with the gain all the way down with a drive in front of it with low gain and level on 10

your take really progressed too

everyone , Ken , Ben , Phil whoever else I might have missed , the takes are great and it looks like we are giving Kris something to keep him busy wink.gif
tflava
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 18 2021, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/

No backing, no effects: Click to view attachment
With backing: Click to view attachment
With backing and effects: Click to view attachment

I don't mind polishing it a bit more, but if you think it's fine then I suppose I'm okay with it. I do kinda want to add a pick up note for the last motif (that two bar thing), but my brain was getting a bit troublesome!

Can I do one for Part B as well or is it only one part? smile.gif


Beautifull tone Ben.
How do you mic up your amp?
I use my boss waza expander but i will also try to expiriment with my SM57 and maybe record 2 signal at once.
Did you use 1 mic?
Todd Simpson
It's got a great Santana type vibe! I almost went for something like this, but instead went the exact opposite way and did what I never try to do and just played rythm smile.gif

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 18 2021, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/

No backing, no effects: Click to view attachment
With backing: Click to view attachment
With backing and effects: Click to view attachment

I don't mind polishing it a bit more, but if you think it's fine then I suppose I'm okay with it. I do kinda want to add a pick up note for the last motif (that two bar thing), but my brain was getting a bit troublesome!

Can I do one for Part B as well or is it only one part? smile.gif

Caelumamittendum
QUOTE (tflava @ Sep 19 2021, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beautifull tone Ben.
How do you mic up your amp?
I use my boss waza expander but i will also try to expiriment with my SM57 and maybe record 2 signal at once.
Did you use 1 mic?


It's just Neural DSP Plini. I forget the name of the preset. Something like "electric sunrise lead" maybe smile.gif
Gabriel Leopardi
I have to say that this backing track is addictive!! biggrin.gif

This is my take over part A.

MIX: Click to view attachment

GUITAR (without effects): Click to view attachment
jstcrsn
QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 19 2021, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that this backing track is addictive!! biggrin.gif

I started taping in harmonic minor for part B and I can't stop.. I need help
Todd Simpson
Very cool licks and dig the tone! nice smile.gif

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 19 2021, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that this backing track is addictive!! biggrin.gif

This is my take over part A.

MIX: Click to view attachment

GUITAR (without effects): Click to view attachment

Kristofer Dahl
QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 20 2021, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I started taping in harmonic minor for part B and I can't stop.. I need help


Hehe you just need to get it out 😁

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 19 2021, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that this backing track is addictive!! biggrin.gif

This is my take over part A.

MIX: Click to view attachment

GUITAR (without effects): Click to view attachment


Awesome lines Gab, can't wait to put my teeth into a response!

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Here is a new mix where I have added another response and some more harmony.
Click to view attachment

More are coming!!!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 19 2021, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I started taping in harmonic minor for part B and I can't stop.. I need help


Cool! Share it! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 19 2021, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very cool licks and dig the tone! nice smile.gif


Thanks friend! I'm really enjoying the Quad Cortex. The UI is so inspiring to create tones.



QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 20 2021, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Awesome lines Gab, can't wait to put my teeth into a response!



Thanks Kris!! Can't wait!!

Phil66
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 18 2021, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/...59693108139629/

With backing and effects: Click to view attachment


That's brilliant Ben, nice one.



QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 17 2021, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Latin grooves are really fun to play over. You can be jazzy and/or do a full-on Santana.

Parts:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment

With backing:
A ... Click to view attachment
B ... Click to view attachment


Awesome Ken, you can tell you're a seasoned pro, inspiring cool.gif

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Sep 18 2021, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is catchy


Nice, some great licks in there wink.gif

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 19 2021, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say that this backing track is addictive!! biggrin.gif

This is my take over part A.

MIX: Click to view attachment

GUITAR (without effects): Click to view attachment


Superb, great use of grace notes in there, very slick cool.gif

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 20 2021, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehe you just need to get it out 😁



Awesome lines Gab, can't wait to put my teeth into a response!

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Here is a new mix where I have added another response and some more harmony.
Click to view attachment

More are coming!!!


This is sound awesome Kris. Loving the little harmony parts over the student takes cool.gif
Todd Simpson
Dig the harmony/octave work! This has a great vibe to it and very unique. Coming together quite well!


QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 20 2021, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehe you just need to get it out 😁



Awesome lines Gab, can't wait to put my teeth into a response!

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Here is a new mix where I have added another response and some more harmony.
Click to view attachment

More are coming!!!

Kristofer Dahl
Awesome you like where this is going! 😁

I have added another response:
Click to view attachment
Kristofer Dahl
Here is a new work-in-progress mix of all the takes we have had so far (I have not received Todd guitar-only file yet).

I think this sounds very coherent and evolving so far, whatyathink? 😎

tflava
Very nice it evolved in a very cool way 😎 nice answers to the takes
Gabriel Leopardi
Wou! This is getting really cool!!

I think that my take is not starting on the right measure so it's not going with the chords.
By the way, your response is amazing! Thank you!! biggrin.gif
Caelumamittendum
Very cool, Kris! I like how it's shaping up! smile.gif

Like Gab, I think my take is moved half a bar. Not that it matters, you should do what you see best. I think it may have been because I play an intro line in the 2 beats of the pick up before the first bar. I noticed some notes landed different than what I had recorded smile.gif
klasaine
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 24 2021, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is a new work-in-progress mix of all the takes we have had so far (I have not received Todd guitar-only file yet).

I think this sounds very coherent and evolving so far, whatyathink? 😎


Sounding good so far. Lotsa different approaches.
*My 2nd solo, over the B part (2:55 or so) is one bar late (or two if you're counting in dbl time).
I'm reattaching my comp of that section ...

Click to view attachment


Kristofer Dahl
oopsie, thanks for pointing that out! 😅
Caelumamittendum
QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 24 2021, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oopsie, thanks for pointing that out! 😅


No worries! You're just composing something new, don't worry! laugh.gif

As Jacob Collier says, there are no "wrong notes", only strong and weak decisions:

Phil66
I could listen to Jacob 24/7, he is fascinating, I don't always understand what he says but even then I'm still gripped smile.gif
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