Multi Effects Vs Pedals, to pod or not to pod..that is the question |
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Multi Effects Vs Pedals, to pod or not to pod..that is the question |
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Dec 15 2011, 05:57 AM |
I'd have to say go Multi. IT's one box to carry, and one box to power, and one box to set and patch. I've done the wads of pedals and cables things and IMHO it's just not worth it for club gigs. It's great in a bedroom, but for gigging, it's a bit of a pain, and just adds more things that can fail and go wrong. But that's just my view
So yeah, POD would be a good choice. The Zoom with two wah style foot contorllers is getting good reviews, but in the end it will come down to you. So per usual, getting some time with various multi units is well worth it even if you have to take a long trip to do it. Here are some to consider BOSS GT10 http://www.thomann.de/gb/boss_gt10.htm POD HD 500 http://www.thomann.de/gb/line6_pod_hd500.htm BUDGET OPTION For about 200 Euro you can get a Rocktron Utopia which honestly has a MUCH, MUCH better build quality than either of the above and it well suited for gigging. It's a bit heavier but solid as a rock. You can throw it off a truck and it won't break and it's pretty cheap. For club work, it has more than enough tone. Keep in mind, your going to sound like the Mic and P.A. more than your rig in a club in general. The sound samples on the page give a crap representation of the "metal" sound. I've tested this unit and it can sound better, give it a shot. http://www.thomann.de/gb/rocktron_utopia_g100.htm This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Dec 15 2011, 06:00 AM |
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Dec 15 2011, 05:17 PM |
Well I gotta say, as years go buy, I prefer simplistic approach. I used lots of pedals on stages, everything ranging from cheap entry level stomps, ROcktron, Boss, to boutique pedals, and in the end - all I have left is one Tubescreamer TS9 reissue that I use as a boost (if needed), and nothing else.
Guitar player needs to be able to adapt to any gear on stage. It's not the gear - it's the player. If you play right, and make settings right, it will sound decent even on cheap Marshall. If you need to have reverb, delay or wah or anything that presents important characteristics of your style, then sure use that. More compact pedalboard - the better. I would personally advise staying away from multifx unit of any kind when going on stage. It will never sound like analog pedal, since these units are digital. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Dec 16 2011, 01:20 AM |
Of course, as mentioned, some players are bringing their laptop on stage and skipping the gear drama all together. Here is a link where various players talk about using guitar rig for home/studio/road/live etc.
http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/pro...-pro/?page=2510 The guy from the DEFTONES has a video talking about ditching his huge rack and just using a laptop and pedal board. It's still the bleeding edge, but it's the future Todd |
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Dec 16 2011, 09:32 AM |
Thank you for all your advices guys!! I am still thinking, maybe i'll buy separates pedals and put them all in a suitcase or box or whatever is the name, a question: what is the function of the tube screamer? to add gain to a saturate line? I like and need a hi gain sound, but they are like 5000 usd the whole combo and, as Sinisa said, a pain in the back to transport. I always have the doubt about playing live using guitar rig 4 with a laptop, once I asked Ivan and he told me it was not a good idea. He explained me why, but I don´t remember the reasons. Function of tubescreamer is to increase loudness, compressing lightly while retaining some of the dynamics,and adding smooth mids to the tone. Ain't nothing special to it. Overdrive sound from it is fairly 80ties, cheap-sounding. But as a boost it works great. These pedals are cheap, and do the work. If you want good overdrive pedal, check out Blackstar ovedrives with preamp tube, they work great (but they are heavy and bulky). What is exactly your budget? You can find decent combo amps for 400-500$, and boost them, it will do the job. Not possible to do a gig with guitar rig 4 and a laptop. Theoretically it is, but the noise is to big, you need good laptop, good interface with high signal to noise ratio, and guitar rig. All 3 cost money, for that money it's possible to get decent combo and couple of pedals. Depending on the function, it should boil down to this: - if you play in a club with the drummer and whole rock band, you need to be heard on stage and have some volume behind you, feel free to carry combo and as little stomps as you need. Try to avoid multiFX unit in this case, or if you do use it, try to put it in loop for effects only, and skip modelling all together - if you play smaller clubs, acoustic or light version of a gig, and you have decent PA system, and some monitoring for you and your bandmates, you can use a processor directly into PA system. - if you play regularly on small to medium to big sized venues, doing frequent travels, need to look professional, and sound professional, choose a rack-based gear, bigger combo or a half-stack, if transport allows it. Of course, a wise musician will choose it's gear according to the venue. There's no point in lugging around half stack into a night club, just as same as there is little point in carrying only processor to bigger gig or when traveling to a club with no amp. Gotta be prepared. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Dec 16 2011, 09:50 AM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Dec 19 2011, 11:54 AM |
+1 I'm not a pro by any means but I found a good amp and then add one pedal at a time you really know what your got when you stand on it. I started off with a pod and really struggled to get a good sound. This is true, I agree. Multis are good for worst-case-scenario, but it's better to have an amp. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Dec 19 2011, 12:19 PM |
try nova system
i dont like pedals due to noise issues and huge costs |
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Dec 20 2011, 10:22 AM |
i think i will go for the jekyll and hyde from visual sound I was checking an amp from "Orange" 35 watts -1500usd! has anyone try it? is it worth it? I think the Jekyll and Hyde will be excellent! The idea is to add your personal flavor of sound to any Marshall/Laney/Fender or whatever the keep at the gig. I'm using a Blackstar HT Dual pedal and it certainly overtakes any amp and add it's Blackstar sound. So no matter the crap I have to put up with I get my grit sound. Is that the Orange Crush 35 watts? Or which other amp is 35 watts? Not worth 1500 usd. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Dec 20 2011, 04:37 PM |
not the crush, the Orange tiny terror
This post has been edited by El Fortinero: Dec 20 2011, 04:39 PM -------------------- WWW.GROOVERMETAL.COM.AR
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