Major Scales 101 |
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Major Scales 101 |
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Aug 19 2007, 08:36 PM |
Only one thing I didn't get, when you transcribed the Major scale boxes, at the begining of the explanation you said there were 7 boxes, but in the end you said there were 5. Now, to me 7 would sound more logical since you have 7 diffrent notes in the scales, and so you can have 7 diffrent boxes while begining on a diffrent note on the low E string. H there - yes, you are exactly right - there are in reality 7 boxes, one for each note of the scale. Right after that I explained that 2 of these boxes only differ from the previous box by 1 semitone (due to the construction of the major scale), so we tend to miss those 2 out as they are only slightly different from the box before. That leaves a gap of 3 semitones in those 2 cases which is more sensible, and we then have 5 boxes separated either by 2 or 3 semitones. So it is convention that we use 5 boxes, you could have 7 if you wanted to -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Aug 19 2007, 08:47 PM |
Yeah figured as much heheh... thanks Andrew
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Oct 11 2007, 03:42 AM
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One thing I don't quite understand with the boxes is how the start/end notes were decided?
Like with box 2 we end on a B, why not end on the C? |
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Oct 11 2007, 04:30 AM |
Actually I suppose box 2 is the only one I don't understand why it does not end on the C. All the other boxes blend together well except 2 and 3. Check my introduction to scales lesson for the answer -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Oct 11 2007, 04:55 AM
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Check my introduction to scales lesson for the answer Sorry, I'm just not getting it.. You sure you just didn't miss the last dot on the 2nd boxes diagram? |
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Oct 11 2007, 05:37 AM |
Sorry, I'm just not getting it.. You sure you just didn't miss the last dot on the 2nd boxes diagram? Ok, I see what you are saying, sorry Yes, you could put a C there and it is playable from that box which would make it flow into the next box nicely - ok I'll fix it EDIT: Done! This post has been edited by Andrew Cockburn: Oct 11 2007, 05:42 AM -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Oct 11 2007, 08:16 PM
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Nice
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Feb 17 2008, 01:43 PM |
Hi! i want to find all the boxes by myself and are using the wwhw... thing and then i have reached the 8 note in the box am i going to count from 1 again? in the first box it looks like its from 2 and that the second starts on 2! i am really cunfused so please help! Yes, the 8th note of the Major scale woiuld be the same as the first note again. Like this in the key of C: C D E F G A B C If it doesn't turn out like that then you may have miscounted ... -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Mar 8 2008, 04:14 AM |
Well, I believe I grasped the concept behind these scales, but what I was wondering is how important is it to learn all the possible boxes for a certain scale ( I have been through major, major pentatonic and minor pentatonic = 15 patterns to memorize). I mean, since each of the 5 patterns associated with each scale are really the same notes, just played at a higher/lower pitch, I imagine that the usefulness of knowing all the boxes is that I would be able to play notes from a certain scale anywhere on the guitar..but it can get quite tedious, so for a beginner level, knowing one, or maby two boxes out of each scale should be enough to cranck out some music, right? Certainly - you can make an extremely convincing solo out of just one box 2 boxes is better, 3 boxes is great ... you get the picture ! More is better but start using them straight away to get results. Eventually, the aim is that all the boxes run together and you don't need them any more, you have mastery of the entire neck - the boxes are just a convenient way to get there. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Mar 9 2008, 11:58 AM |
Kris has some lessons about breaking out of the boxes - but basically, bick a note on a particular string and instead of playing it in the first box, play it in the second instead, then you have shifted boxes. Spend some time experimenting to find points in the scales that work for making a shift, there is no real formula for doing this - the idea is that the boxes should have trained you to know where all the notes for a particular scale are.
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Apr 7 2008, 07:58 AM |
Wow Andrew you know your Stuff! if I got theory questions I'll ask for sure! keep it up we need peoples like you!
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Jul 6 2008, 02:30 PM |
I'll also add that if you play the patterns from start to finish without referencing the root note, you will be training your ear to hear a different scale to the one you thought. Later on, when you start to understand modes, you will be playing those patterns from start to finish, but you will effectively be playing a different scale if you do that - it very important to train your ear to the sound of the major scale in this case, and using root notes as discussed will help you to do that.
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