Dinaga's Insane Lessons Hunt!, With small, achievable goals to success! :)
Dinaga
Feb 1 2012, 03:20 PM
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Hi and welcome to my Insane Lessons Hunt! smile.gif

I've noticed that not many people post REC takes of Insane (Level 9 and Level 10) lessons, which is of course, reasonable because those lessons are so hard. It needs months, maybe even years for a regular guitarist to learn those lessons, and it's hard to stay motivated for so long!

That's why I started this topic: I want to learn some of the 'Insane' lessons - Because I'm nowhere near that level, it will take some time. smile.gif But to keep my motivation I am going to post my slow success by recording myself playing the lessons at lower speeds, starting at 50%. Whenever I feel some noticeable improvement (for example, nailing a specific lick I couldn't do before or being able to play the lesson 10% faster), I'll post a new video, so that progress can be seen.

And the final goal is of course, to finish the Insane lesson and then laugh at the previous lame attempts. biggrin.gif But until that, let's go slowly and precisely.

Some of the quotes that inspire me in my journey are:

"Anyone can be motivated to practice all day long, but few can find the motivation to practice every day." - Kristofer Dahl
"Speed is a byproduct of precision" - Todd Simpson
"The Only Opponent Is Within" - Ben Higgins
"That Floyd Rose guitar was a complete waste of money" - Father

Of course, it would be awesome if others joined this as well! smile.gif It doesn't have to be level 9 or 10 lesson, just pick a lesson that's currently too hard for you and you think you'll need more time to learn it, so you can make smaller, achievable goals and post your progress here. We can give feedback to each other and constantly improve!

For now, here's two beginner attempts at Muris Varajić's lessons:
*Oriental Shred at 50% speed (yeah, I know I messed that diminished run in the ending, will improve that! biggrin.gif ) and
*Mojo Oro - Part 1 at 60% speed.



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Dinaga
Feb 1 2012, 03:54 PM
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Thanks guys! smile.gif I'm glad you like the idea biggrin.gif

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When I'm working on difficult lessons I use different approaches to master them. One of them is to isolate the more difficult parts and work on them as a loop over metronome. Another thing that I do is obviously to use the slower tempo backing tracks. And the third thing that I do is to create exercises that could help me with something that is being difficult for me. I usually create variations of the licks that allow me to play them in a repetitive way.


That's great approach! I too do the isolation and loop smaller parts until I get them done. When I learn all the parts I usually play the whole track on slower tempo because it makes the routine much more interesting. But the variations trick you use is a very good idea, I didn't come up with that before!

Yes, I saw you were working on the Extreme Neoclassical lesson, and I think it's one of the very few lessons here which is actually level 10 ohmy.gif Good luck mate, I'm sure you'll master it well! I am really looking forward to see/hear your take on slower speed, no matter what it is, because this is such an awesome lesson! smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Feb 1 2012, 11:54 AM) *
Thanks guys! smile.gif I'm glad you like the idea biggrin.gif



That's great approach! I too do the isolation and loop smaller parts until I get them done. When I learn all the parts I usually play the whole track on slower tempo because it makes the routine much more interesting. But the variations trick you use is a very good idea, I didn't come up with that before!

Yes, I saw you were working on the Extreme Neoclassical lesson, and I think it's one of the very few lessons here which is actually level 10 ohmy.gif Good luck mate, I'm sure you'll master it well! I am really looking forward to see/hear your take on slower speed, no matter what it is, because this is such an awesome lesson! smile.gif



Curiously the part that I find most difficult at fast tempo is a part that doesn't have fast notes but some string skipping. I'm talking about this type of ideas:

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S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
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----13-12-13-10-13----13----13---13----13----13-|
-------------------12----10----9----------------|
------------------------------------12----10----|
--8---------------------------------------------|
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G#dim
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S E
------------------------------------------------|
--------12-10-12-9-12----12---12----12----12----|
----------------------10----9-------------------|
--9------------------------------12----10----9--|
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The skip from strings 2 to 4, only playing 1 note on each is what is giving me troubles. It's weird because I can play the Gilbert style three notes per string skips..

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Dinaga
Feb 1 2012, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 1 2012, 04:08 PM) *
Curiously the part that I find most difficult at fast tempo is a part that doesn't have fast notes but some string skipping. I'm talking about this type of ideas:

  F                                              
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
------------------------------------------------|
----13-12-13-10-13----13----13---13----13----13-|
-------------------12----10----9----------------|
------------------------------------12----10----|
--8---------------------------------------------|
------------------------------------------------|


G#dim
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S E
------------------------------------------------|
--------12-10-12-9-12----12---12----12----12----|
----------------------10----9-------------------|
--9------------------------------12----10----9--|
------------------------------------------------|
------------------------------------------------|



The skip from strings 2 to 4, only playing 1 note on each is what is giving me troubles. It's weird because I can play the Gilbert style three notes per string skips..


String skipping is a beast! I practiced his song "An Old Modern Time" and it's a string-skipping night mare! The fastest I could go is 120 bpm (the original lesson is 158 bpm). This is a bit older recording, and the quality is bad because I filmed it with phone camera and no DAW:



I should probably return to practicing this one again. It sounds really good, especially for neoclassical fans. smile.gif

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- Dinaga   Dinaga's Insane Lessons Hunt!   Feb 1 2012, 03:20 PM
- - JaxN4   Great Idea, I commend you on your attitude.... Th...   Feb 1 2012, 03:40 PM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   hey Dinaga!! This idea is brilliant!...   Feb 1 2012, 03:48 PM
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- - Alex Feather   Great idea!!! Thank you so much for sh...   Feb 1 2012, 05:09 PM
- - quadrium   Great thread man! I'm also working on some...   Feb 1 2012, 05:46 PM
- - derper   I actually started a similar thread, though it was...   Feb 1 2012, 07:38 PM
- - Dinaga   Wow, this has huge potential! I can't wait...   Feb 1 2012, 07:52 PM
- - DeGroot   I had been thinking about how I'm going to eve...   Feb 1 2012, 07:53 PM
- - derper   Sorry to hear you injured the wrist! That...   Feb 2 2012, 12:57 AM
|- - Dinaga   @Ben & Cosmin: AWESOME! Yayyy, this thread...   Feb 2 2012, 03:03 PM
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- - DeGroot   Thanks for the suggestions derper! That sound...   Feb 2 2012, 08:04 AM
- - Ben Higgins   Hey Dinaga.. I love this thread - great idea ...   Feb 2 2012, 10:51 AM
|- - Cosmin Lupu   QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Feb 2 2012, 09:51 AM...   Feb 2 2012, 12:24 PM
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- - gregc1   Love the idea Dinaga. I'm definitely in to try...   Feb 3 2012, 09:04 PM
- - El Fortinero   Maybe i am a bit crazy but i liked much more the o...   Feb 3 2012, 09:06 PM
|- - Dinaga   QUOTE Love the idea Dinaga. I'm definitely in ...   Feb 5 2012, 11:14 AM
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- - HungryForHeaven   Dinaga, this is an excellent project! I have b...   Feb 4 2012, 12:23 PM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   That is awesome man, I just checked out this threa...   Feb 5 2012, 01:34 PM
|- - Dinaga   QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Feb 5 2012, 01:3...   Feb 5 2012, 07:38 PM
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- - derper   Great take Dinaga!! I had never heard tha...   Feb 5 2012, 09:10 PM
|- - Dinaga   QUOTE (derper @ Feb 5 2012, 09:10 PM) Gre...   Feb 6 2012, 11:45 PM
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- - derper   Great new take on the Oriental Shred.... at first ...   Feb 6 2012, 11:58 PM
- - Ben Higgins   Really enjoying this thread Dinaga ! And yes...   Feb 7 2012, 10:54 AM
- - derper   Finally.....I had the time, and the means to submi...   Feb 7 2012, 10:23 PM
|- - Dinaga   QUOTE (derper @ Feb 7 2012, 10:23 PM) Fin...   Feb 7 2012, 11:40 PM
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- - derper   Thanks!! As long as I get up and do my...   Feb 7 2012, 11:50 PM
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- - Dinaga   You didn't think I'd give up on this quest...   Feb 15 2012, 01:39 AM
|- - Ben Higgins   QUOTE (Dinaga @ Feb 15 2012, 12:39 AM) Yo...   Feb 15 2012, 09:49 AM
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- - derper   Let's keep this thread alive!! I actu...   Feb 15 2012, 01:45 AM
|- - Dinaga   QUOTE (derper @ Feb 15 2012, 01:45 AM) Le...   Feb 15 2012, 01:53 AM
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- - maharzan   Wow, how did I miss this thread? Awesome job Dinag...   Feb 15 2012, 02:54 AM
- - Dinaga   QUOTE Sounding good D-Master ! I love that T s...   Feb 15 2012, 01:18 PM
- - maharzan   Hows your hand Dinaga?   Mar 2 2012, 10:50 AM
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- - derper   Great job Dinaga!! So awesome to have you...   Mar 19 2012, 06:30 PM
- - derper   Also, I didn't post it here (I made a separate...   Mar 19 2012, 07:46 PM
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- - Cosmin Lupu   D-man welcome back we missed you!   Mar 20 2012, 04:19 PM
- - Dinaga   Thanks a lot my friends. I missed you too!   Mar 20 2012, 06:19 PM
- - Dinaga   Well I can safely say that this period is probably...   Mar 22 2012, 07:24 PM
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- - derper   Also....here's a vid from my "warmup...   Mar 26 2012, 09:24 PM
- - Dinaga   Man, that sounds sweet! I love the light-show ...   Mar 26 2012, 10:08 PM
|- - derper   I've taken your advice, in the days after this...   Mar 29 2012, 07:02 AM
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- - Dinaga   Thanks a bunch guys!   May 26 2012, 03:33 PM
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