Guitarist Levels, Your path to 1000 hours |
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Guitarist Levels, Your path to 1000 hours |
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Apr 8 2012, 06:07 PM |
I think its safe to safe if you have a 1000 hours under your belt, you have a good understanding of what you are doing. I am going to be using this for my progress. I have come up with a fun way of reaching goals. I would like to invite the instructors to give their input, but I have come up with dividing up the hours from 0-1000 into 7 levels.
Hours Title 0-10 Guitar Hero Defector 11-50 Air Guitarist 51-100 Guitar Not A Zero 101-300 Ax Grinder 301-500 Shred N Butter Man 501-750 Guitar Virtu-So-So 751-1000 Guitar Hero What I would like to know is given the average person what things should the know at the various levels? Do you think we could quantify? I like the idea of having a measuring stick to strive to meet, and beat. I have made the hours not to be too long between titles. People can get to Ax Grinder pretty fast. We could create a chart to show what kind of techniques, scales, chords, songs would be equivalent at this level. We could take this beyond 1000 hours, if others who are past this want to develop this further. To me, its about the practice time, the good practice time. I can riff away aimlessly and not get better. I think if we record, observe, and evaluate our practice time. We will see great strides in progress. We all know its not how long you have owned a guitar, or had access to one, but how long you have been playing, and pushing yourself to get better.I would like to hear your thoughts. I think this could be a lot of fun. -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 12 2012, 02:43 PM |
The thing about the 10,000 hours theory is that it can only apply to one specific task, surely ? 10,000 hrs doesn't mean mastery of the guitar.. it can only possibly refer to mastery of one specific task. So that would mean we need another 10,000 hrs devoted to any other technique we want to master ??? Let's take alternate picking, which is the most common target for guitarists. Does 10,000 hrs even mean mastery of picking or just mastery of one specific type of lick, like outside picking ? What about inside picking ? To be honest, I think it's a little bit of outdated science, because what if 2,000 hrs of that was crap repetition and poor technique ? Let's face it, if you practice 8 hrs a day you're not keeping up the quality all that time, you just aren't. The brain can only do so much. I'm going to respectfully disagree here Mr Bone, making it sound musical is always possible with lick drills etc. In fact, I would encourage it to ward off boredom. If we're only practising hand mechanics without any melody or music we're making it harder on ourselves I think, because we're still going to have to employ the musical side of things anyway. Say if you practised only robotic licks for 5 yrs, now you've gotta start from scratch with melody etc. Better to encompass it all together from the start. It's possible I misunderstood you.. or it was a typo on your behalf ?? Its not a typo But I'll try to elaborate a little bit for now, and I'll come back to it when I have time to type more. I must confess, I am not the one to develop the concept of extremely slow practicing. It is a system that is taught at the Spartak Tennis Club in Moscow and the Meadowmount School of Music in Upstate New York. Spartak has produced more world class tennis players from the years 2005-07 than all the Tennis clubs in the US combined did within in the same time frame. For hours everyday they practice all the motions very slowly, without a tennis ball. The students at Meadowmount learn a years worth of music in about seven weeks. A core element of their training technique comes for practicing everything very, very slow. The following passage is from the book "The Talent Code" by Daniel Coyle. Why does slowing down work so well? The myelin model offers two reasons. First, going slow allows you to attend more closely to errors, creating a higher degree of precision with each firing - and when it comes to growing mylelin, precision is everything. As football coach Tom Martinez says, "It's not how fast you can do it. It's how slow you can do it correctly." Secondly, going slow helps the practicer to develop something even more important: a working perception of the skills internal blueprints--the shape and rhythm of the interlocking circuits. If you're not familiar with myelin, it is the sheath that wraps around your neurons. The more wraps there are, the faster the pulses flow through the neuron. Practicing builds myelin. But you're right Ben, not all practice is equal. You can widdle away for hours on end and not achieve anything. I would like to discuss more topics from that book that touch on this particular subject, but I have to go to class right now I sense I'm leaving more questions than I am answering Anyhow, read the book. It will definitely change your perspective on many things. I will be doing a book review on it after the end of this semester. This post has been edited by Mudbone: Apr 12 2012, 02:45 PM -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000 |
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Apr 12 2012, 06:35 PM |
Its not a typo But I'll try to elaborate a little bit for now, and I'll come back to it when I have time to type more. I must confess, I am not the one to develop the concept of extremely slow practicing. It is a system that is taught at the Spartak Tennis Club in Moscow and the Meadowmount School of Music in Upstate New York. Spartak has produced more world class tennis players from the years 2005-07 than all the Tennis clubs in the US combined did within in the same time frame. For hours everyday they practice all the motions very slowly, without a tennis ball. The students at Meadowmount learn a years worth of music in about seven weeks. A core element of their training technique comes for practicing everything very, very slow. The following passage is from the book "The Talent Code" by Daniel Coyle. Why does slowing down work so well? The myelin model offers two reasons. First, going slow allows you to attend more closely to errors, creating a higher degree of precision with each firing - and when it comes to growing mylelin, precision is everything. As football coach Tom Martinez says, "It's not how fast you can do it. It's how slow you can do it correctly." Secondly, going slow helps the practicer to develop something even more important: a working perception of the skills internal blueprints--the shape and rhythm of the interlocking circuits. If you're not familiar with myelin, it is the sheath that wraps around your neurons. The more wraps there are, the faster the pulses flow through the neuron. Practicing builds myelin. But you're right Ben, not all practice is equal. You can widdle away for hours on end and not achieve anything. I would like to discuss more topics from that book that touch on this particular subject, but I have to go to class right now I sense I'm leaving more questions than I am answering Anyhow, read the book. It will definitely change your perspective on many things. I will be doing a book review on it after the end of this semester. Sounds good. I definitely agree with this principle of slow practice, practising perfectly. I've been saying for a long time about 'giving yourself time to get it right' but it seems these guys take it a lot further. Very interesting stuff |
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