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Nov 12 2018, 10:03 PM |
Hello folks,
Can you tell me what the interval is in the first one please, I find it sounds very very sad if played slowly, either individual notes or letting the first note ring. Is the interval the same in the second TAB? I can't get my head around it as it's the same notes but one going down to A and one going up to A. The second one I still find sad but not as sad as the first, kind of like having a glimmer of hope but the sadness is still there. I hope this makes sense. Thank you. -----------| -----------| This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 12 2018, 11:22 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 12 2018, 11:21 PM |
I'm guessing the interval will be different going down to A than it is going up to A as you're counting backwards instead of forwards. It's the first one a 4th and the second one some kind of 5th? -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 13 2018, 08:39 AM |
Thanks Todd, Therein lies my lack of theory knowledge. I thought you somehow counted along the whole notes (not counting sharps and flats). The TAB is correct, no string between unless I've been a total numpty, I will double check this evening, my head is allo ver the place at the moment. Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 13 2018, 04:06 PM |
+1 to all of the above.
As for the pensive v. hopeful impressions ... Well, everyone reacts a little differently. Probably has to do with how you were "imprinted" as a wee one. You're English. A lot of trad Celtic melodies, both major and minor, start with and utilise 4th and 5th interval jumps in their melodies. Bagpipe 'drones' are usually a 5th (or 4th) below the pipe melody. So much of that music tells a story of conflict or love lost, etc. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Nov 13 2018, 07:36 PM |
Thanks folks,
So the first one you count E D C B A with E being 1 and A being 5. The second one you count E F G A where E=1 A=4. Why don't we count the sharps/flats? I'll record me playing them later just in case I'm doing something weird to get the sad sound or is it in my head? Thanks This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 13 2018, 08:46 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 13 2018, 08:50 PM |
As promised above, (see post immediately above this one if you missed it) here are those intervals how I've played them. To me, this sounds so very sad, even the 5th sounds sad. Apologies for the fret buzz, got to get the guitar set up.
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/intervals-4-5 This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 13 2018, 08:51 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 13 2018, 10:08 PM |
As it's just a couple of notes, it's sounding fairly neutral on my ears? If you add some notes in between, to give the first and last notes some context, then it should start sounding a bit more or less happy If you follow the Minor pattern, it should sound sorta sad, and if you follow major, it should sound sorta happy.
As promised above, (see post immediately above this one if you missed it) here are those intervals how I've played them. To me, this sounds so very sad, even the 5th sounds sad. Apologies for the fret buzz, got to get the guitar set up.
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/intervals-4-5 |
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Nov 13 2018, 10:24 PM |
I know what you're saying Todd but to me those first two notes sound especially down, maybe it's because they're descending, I don't know, it must just be me as everyone else is saying they're neutral. Maybe that's why my major minor question was confusing, because things that sound sad or happy to me, don't sound that way too others.
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 13 2018, 11:07 PM |
No disrespect Ben but why do you need to know if they're the interval between the 3rd and 5th in a major chord, or between the root and the 3rd of a minor chord to decide whether they should make you feel happy or sad?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I don't get it, I want to understand why I'm the only one feeling that way with those two notes. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 14 2018, 08:30 AM |
I understand what you'e saying 100% buddy. I must just have a strange perception with the feeling of that particular interval. When I hear those first two notes, images of a lonely child looking out of a rainy window, or a dog tied up in a yard in the rain, and similar things come into my mind. Maybe that's why I get sad watching some films when others don't.
I guess it's all where theory, art and perception all clash. Plus I'm a theory numpty And now this https://www.musictheory.net/lessons/31 has completely confused me as they don't count the first note as 1 which I thought you did or is that just scales and chords? So a perfect 2nd is 2 semitones, kinda makes sense, a major 3rd is 4 semitones, why not 3? A major 6th is NINE semitones??? At the moment it must seems like you have to commit to memory what the intervals are. Being a precision engineer I like to be able to work out HOW to work out what I need to know based on some basic info that can be used as a starting point. Maybe I'm missing the whole thing and should just forget it and wing everything so long as I know few notes. Maybe one day I'll get one of those light bulb moments and feel stuoid for not getting it This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 14 2018, 09:32 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 14 2018, 10:10 AM |
Just because you walked up 7 semitones doesn't mean you are playing a seventh. Thanks Monkey, I think that's where I'm getting confused. I've I crack that nut I'll be OK. Sometimes I get it in my head that I want to understand what I'm playing for no other reason than I want to. I get obsessed with it and sometimes end up completely deflated -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 14 2018, 12:57 PM |
Never mind this anyway. Longer post when I get home.
This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Nov 14 2018, 01:05 PM |
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Nov 14 2018, 01:30 PM |
Never mind this anyway. Longer post when I get home. ??? -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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