Sweeping Lesson 1 - 3 string shapes

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   Sweeping is one of the coolest shredder's trick to play crazy solos that sound just "WOW!". It's also very tricky technique and requires lots of practice. But when you really get it down and combine with other techniques you'll be able to play really crazy solo's that will sound like: "How the hell did he do that?!".

When i first met this technique and heard Michael Angelo Batio sweeping i said: "There is no way i will ever be able to do that!". With hard practice and feeling of: "I am gonna get you!" you can all do it!! So get your guitar and build your sweeping skills here!

Equipment used: Ibanez Jem7WH, Marshall AVT50 amp, Digitech DF-7 Distortion Factory, Digitech Digidelay.

/Pavel



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RIP Dime
post 15th January 2007


Member


Awesome!! Helped alot!
Boggi
post 15th January 2007


Member


Great. !

Love sweep picking ! biggrin.gif
Norven
post 15th January 2007


Member


very nice, but only got 22 frets on my guitar tongue.gif
Kristofer Dahl
post 15th January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Norven: You can play on the 22th fret instead - making it a minor7 arpeggio ( I don't have 24 frets either). Or you could just move everything down two frets.

Pavel: Awesome - I like how you gradually speed it up in part 3 - one can hear your playing remains clean inspite of the speed.

I started practicing sweeping seriously a couple of months ago - so just like everybody else I would be curious to know...

How long have you been practcing sweeping (and how many hours per day) - when did you start noticing progress? smile.gif
/Kris
Pavel
post 15th January 2007


Instructor


First of all: sorry for the 24th fret stuff but i am addicted to it hehe! And as Kris said: you can just start playing the whole lick in D-minor and your 22 frets would be just enough!

I started to practice sweeps 2 years ago, at least 3 hours a day, and now i am practicing it more and more hours because it is a very difficult technique - you'll see what i am talking about in 5-string sweeping shapes, not to mention 6-string shapes - nightmare! And ofcourse i want to make them fast as hell but still to remain clean in playing. So it requires lots of hours a day.
A progress - it's coming very slowly so i really can't tell you - took some time to feel it. And you should practice sweeps when you are really warmed up with other excercises.
Pavel
Kristofer Dahl
post 15th January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


So what is you maximum bpm for the three string arpeggio - (and for the five string) stuff?

What's your goal bpm? (If you have one)
Pavel
post 15th January 2007


Instructor


For 3-strings - 120 to 130 bpm (6-tuplets) to make them sound good. Same for 5-strings i think.
It all depends on the pattern - some of them are simple and some of them are just too difficult.

The 5-strings patterns lesson will be around 120-130 bpm.

No goal - the faster the better! The faster you play sweeps the more you love them!
Kristofer Dahl
post 15th January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Do you mainly do it with triad arpeggios (minor and major) or have you experimented with Maj7, min7, dominant, diminished etc?
Pavel
post 15th January 2007


Instructor


Update: just noticed that can play 5-string arps at 170 BPM! Sounds wild.

Also love diminished, maj7 and min7 are really tricky to play - basicly the probleme is in left hand - very uncomfortable finger positions. The main thing is to master the right hand - later it is no problem to play with other shapes of arps. smile.gif
beebo
post 15th January 2007


Member


Hey Kris for some reason both of my electric guitars only have 21 frets and they're normal guitars so what should I do? Right now I'm broke but could you help me on this one
Pavel
post 15th January 2007


Instructor


That's not a big problem m8! Just start playing the lick form the 15th fret, that would be C-minor, play the same patterns starting from C-minor (15th fret).
RIP Dime
post 15th January 2007


Member


The great thing about the guitar is that you can move licks around!smile.gif So use the shapes Pavel shows in this lesson, and put them in a key that would fit on your fretboard. So you could use this chord progression: C minor arpeggio- Bb major- C minor- G#major- C minor- Bb Major- G#major- C#major- C minor.
RIP Dime
post 15th January 2007


Member


Awww! Pavel beat me to it tongue.gif
Norven
post 15th January 2007


Member


ah, okey.
Btw I got so much Inspiration from this lesson!
I just wanna sweep, sweep and sweep:D
Kristofer Dahl
post 15th January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Pavel: Well that's quite some progress! You should keep us updated in the metronome sticky too.

It's interesting you say they (four note arpeggios) are trickier for you - for me it's always been the contrary. In particular, I have found it a lot easier to improvise with with four note arpeggios - as they usually have four notes per string.

This once again proves there are no rights or wrongs! smile.gif
beebo
post 16th January 2007


Member


I tried counting the numbers in my head on the metronome but cant seem to get it. Do you think you could make like a mini video to show people on how to use the metronome with sweeping. I watched the metronome lesson but I'm still not sure how to use the metronome with sweeping. I'd appreciate the help!
Fender23strat
post 16th January 2007


Member


I agree with beebonumma1 I'm confused on how to put them to metronome. I've been trying to do an entire sweep per on beat at around 30 bpm right now but it's difficult to time so many notes per beat. When I try the 6tuplets it doesn't work cause there is eleven notes.
Mark Schiewe
post 16th January 2007


Member


Hey Pavel what settings do you use on your DF-7 dirsortion factory pedal?
Pavel
post 16th January 2007


Instructor


OK guys i'll make and audio file of counting and upload it to Metronome Sticky!

Mark: Distortion Model - 5, Low - 12 o'clock, Mid - 15 o'clock, Mid Freq - 12 o'clock, High - 10 o'clock, and Gain - 12 o'clock.
And the sound also depends on the amp.
Pavel
post 16th January 2007


Instructor


http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...type=post&id=54

Here is the link to a video displaying playing sweeps with metronome. Hope it helps.
kevin-riff-after-riff
post 19th January 2007


Member


correction
e|18-15---------15-18--|
a|-----15-----15-------|
g|------15--15---------|
d|--------17-----------|
a|---------------------|
e|---------------------|what do i do with shapes like this? roll my fingers? because this shape isnt on this video you see
Pavel
post 19th January 2007


Instructor


There will be more sweep lessons next week and more shapes will be covered there.

But yes - you have to roll your finger there.
ScoJoh
post 21st January 2007


Member


This is a very cool lick, and a nice pattern for learning sweeps!
I also noticed that if you only have 22 frets that you could end the lick with a bend on the 22nd fret.
Thanks Pavel, show us more!
ScoJoh
beebo
post 21st January 2007


Member


i don't have the real player thing
so I can't go on
Codyrg
post 21st January 2007


Member


Pavel, I want to have your children biggrin.gif

Thank you SO much for this lesson! SUPERB playing! Can't wait to hear more from you!
Pavel
post 22nd January 2007


Instructor


Thx for the comments!

More coming very very soon!

@Codyrg: if you are a girl can we have your picture on the forum?? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Kristofer Dahl
post 22nd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Codyrg: Even if you are a man It'd be biologically interesting to see your photo!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Steelkonsum
post 23rd January 2007


Member


Pavelm any plans on comin to sweden? If you do stop by Malmö and teach me how to be you wink.gif

Question: how do you mute the strings more specifically? Mine keep ringing (I play extreeemly slow so dont tell me to slow down ^^)
Pavel
post 23rd January 2007


Instructor


Hahaha ok i won't tell you to slow down!!

It's all about the right hand, you have to keep your hand right at the place where the strings are leaving the bridge so that way you mute them.

Also another advice: don't be afraid of moving your right hand up to 1st string and down to 6th string - it will help you to mute the string you want to mute.

Take a closer look at my right hand and you'll notice i am not only moving the pick but also the whole palm.
Codyrg
post 23rd January 2007


Member


Oh I'm a guy...

But the power of the sweep can make anything happen wink.gif

I'm about to go check out the 5 string sweeping! Thanks again for doing these!
Kristofer Dahl
post 23rd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Codyrg: Judging from your avatar those could be creepy children!

Steekonsum: Perhaps you should also think about releasing your left hand fingers slightly after each pick strike.
Steelkonsum
post 23rd January 2007


Member


Kris: At 'work' right now so can't practice but I will keep the tip in mind! (oh and PS. creepy isn't spelt with an 'a' biggrin.gif)

Pavel: I've been watchin' your hand more closely and remember doing something similiar last night before the neighbours were headin my way. But either I seemed to mute the strings all the time (i.e. palm muting) or it didn't quite work out at all. So, am I supposed to palm mute or is it something I am totally missing here?
Kristofer Dahl
post 23rd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


what a?

wink.gif biggrin.gif
Pavel
post 24th January 2007


Instructor


After you play a note and move onto another string you release the previous note played and mute the string with the right hand.
beebo
post 26th January 2007


Member


hello pavel, how do you do those whammy tricks at the end I can't seem to figre it out!
Pavel
post 27th January 2007


Instructor


Release the strings, a bit, with Whammy Bar, then play a natural harmonics on 3rd and 4th strings at the 10th fret - play 2 strings together - and then pull your Whammy Bar. (hope it helped, if not - expect a lesson)

Think that could be a good lesson, lesson on Whammy Bar tricks.
beebo
post 27th January 2007


Member


yea and maybe if you want to add on to that a wa-wa pedal lesso would be nice all about the talking guitar! lol smile.gif
beebo
post 29th January 2007


Member


i'm confused on what u mean by relase the strings a bit w/ the whammy bar and pull your whammy bar which way
Pavel
post 29th January 2007


Instructor


Don't worry - i think a lesson on that will soon pop up! wink.gif
MickeM
post 30th January 2007


Born of NWOBHM, Moderator


Just a stupid question... Why do you pick the G string Down instead of Up when you turn around?

When I start getting speed a always begin picking the turnaround on G with upstrokes and my first downstroke on the B string.
It's frustrating *grmbl*
Pavel
post 30th January 2007


Instructor


I pick it that way because it's the only way to play it fast. The picking also depends on the number of notes in your shape - in this case it's the only way. wink.gif
Pavel
post 30th January 2007


Instructor


One more thing: try to play this shape starting with the G string - and you'll get the exact same picking.
MickeM
post 30th January 2007


Born of NWOBHM, Moderator


"the only way to play it fast" - A reason as good as any. I will practise more to get it into my mind to downstroke instead of up :-)
shredmandan
post 28th February 2007


Member


YEAH
I THINK A FEW LESSON'S ON THE USE OF A whammy would be great.i can do the harmonic sounds and squeel's with the whammy but other than that i dont have a good playing style with it.also info on floyd rose would be great.there are so many tricky things with it.when i first got mine i was like this will be awesome but,then realized it takes a while to get used to it and understand it's setup.
stratman33
post 8th March 2007


Member


awesome lesson.that could make a sweet solo if u shredded it, and with a whammy bar it would be sweet.keep it up.smile.gif
stratman33
post 8th March 2007


Member


this is random, but i just noticed that this smiley is way bigger in this than the forums lol.
GuitarDude
post 19th April 2007


Member


I will never be able to play that X_X
Pavel
post 21st April 2007


Instructor


Oh you will!! Just take 30 minutes of sweeps every day and you'll be able to sweep sooner than you expect it!
mattacuk
post 21st April 2007


Lets go fishing!


Just a quick question.

Notes: 6-tuplets (6 notes played for each beat of the bar)
Time signature: 4/4

Does this mean i should be playing 4 notes per click or 6?
Pavel
post 23rd April 2007


Instructor


4/4 is a meassure. 6-tuplete is a note duration so don't get confused by that.

It still means you play 6 notes per beat! smile.gif
mattacuk
post 25th April 2007


Lets go fishing!


Thanks Pavel, I understand now after reading up! =O)
mattacuk
post 29th April 2007


Lets go fishing!


I wonder if someone might be kind enough to tab out part 3 for us with 22 fret guitars?! =0)
guitardudenr1
post 19th June 2007


Member


sweeping is so hard;S
The-Levy
post 26th July 2007


Member


Sweeping is wicket hard but like pavel said... it takes lots of practice, just think about the last thing you tough it was hard and now you do like a breeze!! Practice Practice Practice!! =)
Munk
post 30th July 2007


Member


I have a little theory question.

How do i know where to play the 3 string shape with a given chord? like Am, where should the first note in the shape be?
Munk
post 30th July 2007


Member


oh nevermind i figured it out smile.gif
guybrush
post 30th July 2007


Member


I have a question about the picking...

You do like this: U,P-O,U,D,D,D
But me I do like this: U,P-O,U,U,D,D

It's ok or it will cause a problem later?
Pavel
post 30th July 2007


Instructor


The way you do it is the way Rusty Cooley does it. I do it the way Michael Angelo does it! smile.gif I find my way more comfortable to me! So if your way is good to you keep doing it! smile.gif
dk2
post 4th August 2007


Member


that solo is so kick ass:)
Pavel
post 4th August 2007


Instructor


Thanks! Well, learn it and you can go catch some chicks in guitar store! But be careful when playing in front of their b/f - you might play something better than he can and than you are in troubles! biggrin.gif
deWeLL
post 9th August 2007


Member


Thanks for the lesson, I never found a lesson that "easy" to understand how to practice sweeping efficiantly ...

And Pavels pronounciation of the word "off" reminds me of the Klitschko brothers ... very cool *G*
Pavel
post 9th August 2007


Instructor


Hahaha well that's maybe because both they and i are Ukrainians! You know you can easily know where a person is coming from: Russia, Germany, Italy, French by only hearing one sentence in English. It's all in the way they pronounce stuff! biggrin.gif

I'm glad you liked the lesson!
Soul_Decision
post 19th September 2007


Member


What if you have 21 frets like my crappy guitar :/. How many frets would you move down?
Pavel
post 19th September 2007


Instructor


Move the whole exercise 3 or 4 frets down.
Soul_Decision
post 20th September 2007


Member


Ok, thanks.
Bitey
post 26th September 2007


Member


Okay, I have the Floyd Rose system so it is kind of hard to do the bottom 3 strings for sweeping. Am I the only one with the trouble. Like even when I am not I can't get a good Hammer on or Pull off on the Higher notes on the E string.
r00xIbaneZ
post 26th September 2007


Member


In story time approximately can i touch sweep