The Murder Of Music, Think Before You Act
Emir Hot
Dec 9 2009, 04:18 AM
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My friend and an awesome neoclassical shredder Borislav Mitic has recently signed for Lion Music which is the metal label from Finland that also released my album.

Just before he released his new record he posted a very seirous story about "The Murder of Music" on the Lion Music's website. Some of other Lion Music artists (including me) also gave their input on this subject.

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I would be interested to see comments on Borislav's text from GMC community.

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Emir Hot
Dec 23 2009, 03:53 AM
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This is the copy from Lion Music website about signing new artists. I hope this explains enough:

Dear Musicians,

We are NOT able to sign more artists. No demos or masters you send us will be considered for release. We will NOT listen to any mp3 files or check out your websites and we will NOT respond to questions regarding releasing your album.

The illegal file sharing on the net is killing independent music. We are sorry about this situation but we are sure you are aware of what is going on. Our demo policy will not change before our politicians have stopped the P2P sites. Illegal file sharing is not just about stealing from rich major companies. It is about killing independent music and making it impossible for many great musicians to have a chance to release albums and have a musical career even as a part time job.

Some people seem to think that file sharing does not affect record sales but these people don't know what they are talking about. All musical genres and all kinds of artists are suffering and so will the genuine music fans in the end when the music they love will no longer be available in any guise - free or not. Next time you consider downloading an album for free or adding new torrents please think of the impact you are having on the artists - would you like it if we came into your home and stole your pay check?

To give you some facts and figures on how this is affecting just some of Lion Music releases please view below - stats taken from just 1 non leading bit torrent site (we are not going to give free advertising to which site it is):


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Angel Of Eden - The End Of Never : 9276 illegal downloads and rising!

Sphere Of Souls - From The Ashes : 6445 illegal downloads and rising!

Sun Caged - Sun Caged : 6383 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Mercy Falls : 6160 illegal downloads and rising!

Twinspirits - The Music That Will Heal The World: 5059 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Waiting In The Wings : 4942 illegal downloads and rising!
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Sun Caged - Artemisia: 4920 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Become : 2757 illegal downloads and rising!

Satyrian - Eternitas : 2688 illegal downloads and rising!

Marco Sfogli - There's Hope : 2653 illegal downloads and rising!
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Tears Of Anger - In The Shadows : 2504 illegal downloads and rising!
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Section A - Parallel Lives : 1926 illegal downloads and rising!

Venturia - Hybrid : 1800 illegal downloads and rising

Joe Stump - Virtuostic Vendetta : 1621 illegal downloads and rising!
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Tomorrow's Eve - Mirror Of Creation II The Genesis : 1545 illegal downloads and rising!

Astra - From Within : 1400 illegal downloads and rising!
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Mind's Eye - Walking on H20 : 1345 illegal downloads and rising!
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Vitalij Kuprij - Glacial Inferno - 1339 illegal downloads and rising



Someone said that we should trace IP addresses of websites that are sharing download links. There are thousands of them, that's just not possible. Just type "Emir Hot" in Google. 70% of the search results are torrent sites smile.gif Not to mention some better known musicians. I am actually nobody comparing to other good metal bands.

I didn't expect that this topic will have most of "Emir Hot" examples even though I am very affected with this subject. This was about Borislav Mitic who made a statement on Lion Music website and I wanted to hear oppinions on that story.

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Dec 23 2009, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Dec 23 2009, 03:53 AM) *
This is the copy from Lion Music website about signing new artists. I hope this explains enough:

Dear Musicians,

We are NOT able to sign more artists. No demos or masters you send us will be considered for release. We will NOT listen to any mp3 files or check out your websites and we will NOT respond to questions regarding releasing your album.

The illegal file sharing on the net is killing independent music. We are sorry about this situation but we are sure you are aware of what is going on. Our demo policy will not change before our politicians have stopped the P2P sites. Illegal file sharing is not just about stealing from rich major companies. It is about killing independent music and making it impossible for many great musicians to have a chance to release albums and have a musical career even as a part time job.

Some people seem to think that file sharing does not affect record sales but these people don't know what they are talking about. All musical genres and all kinds of artists are suffering and so will the genuine music fans in the end when the music they love will no longer be available in any guise - free or not. Next time you consider downloading an album for free or adding new torrents please think of the impact you are having on the artists - would you like it if we came into your home and stole your pay check?

To give you some facts and figures on how this is affecting just some of Lion Music releases please view below - stats taken from just 1 non leading bit torrent site (we are not going to give free advertising to which site it is):


*
Angel Of Eden - The End Of Never : 9276 illegal downloads and rising!

Sphere Of Souls - From The Ashes : 6445 illegal downloads and rising!

Sun Caged - Sun Caged : 6383 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Mercy Falls : 6160 illegal downloads and rising!

Twinspirits - The Music That Will Heal The World: 5059 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Waiting In The Wings : 4942 illegal downloads and rising!
*
Sun Caged - Artemisia: 4920 illegal downloads and rising!

Seventh Wonder - Become : 2757 illegal downloads and rising!

Satyrian - Eternitas : 2688 illegal downloads and rising!

Marco Sfogli - There's Hope : 2653 illegal downloads and rising!
*
Tears Of Anger - In The Shadows : 2504 illegal downloads and rising!
*
Section A - Parallel Lives : 1926 illegal downloads and rising!

Venturia - Hybrid : 1800 illegal downloads and rising

Joe Stump - Virtuostic Vendetta : 1621 illegal downloads and rising!
*
Tomorrow's Eve - Mirror Of Creation II The Genesis : 1545 illegal downloads and rising!

Astra - From Within : 1400 illegal downloads and rising!
*
Mind's Eye - Walking on H20 : 1345 illegal downloads and rising!
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Vitalij Kuprij - Glacial Inferno - 1339 illegal downloads and rising



Someone said that we should trace IP addresses of websites that are sharing download links. There are thousands of them, that's just not possible. Just type "Emir Hot" in Google. 70% of the search results are torrent sites smile.gif Not to mention some better known musicians. I am actually nobody comparing to other good metal bands.

I didn't expect that this topic will have most of "Emir Hot" examples even though I am very affected with this subject. This was about Borislav Mitic who made a statement on Lion Music website and I wanted to hear oppinions on that story.


WOW!!! That is really sad news....but totally understandable. You can't give away your product....or in this case have it stolen from you and expect to stay in business for very long. This does not bode well for the future of independent and more specifically instrumental guitar music.....which I for one LOVE!!

Emir.....what do you see happening? Do you see instrumental guitar music basically just dissapearing? I mean how could anybody be expected to put so much time, effort and money into something that they will not get any kind of a return on their investment on?? Unless you have a lot of money already I don't see how this would be possible. So where does that leave independent music?.........just where the title of the thread says......MURDERED.......by the very people that supposedly loved it. sad.gif

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- Emir Hot   The Murder Of Music   Dec 9 2009, 04:18 AM
- - intemperateControl   This thread has great interest to me. Speaking not...   Dec 14 2009, 04:19 PM
|- - intemperateControl   .......Not to quote myself, but, what I am trying ...   Dec 14 2009, 11:43 PM
|- - Staffy   QUOTE (intemperateControl @ Dec 14 2009, 11...   Dec 14 2009, 11:48 PM
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- - Emir Hot   Thanks for your words of support intemperate but I...   Dec 15 2009, 12:02 AM
- - Pedja Simovic   My conclusion after reading all these responses is...   Dec 15 2009, 12:11 AM
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|- - Staffy   QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Dec 15 2009, 12:11...   Dec 15 2009, 12:42 AM
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|- - Pedja Simovic   QUOTE (Staffy @ Dec 15 2009, 08:03 AM) Th...   Dec 15 2009, 01:05 PM
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- - Emir Hot   I know what you're saying Pedja. I play gigs l...   Dec 15 2009, 01:35 AM
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- - intemperateControl   I know you are a very experienced musician, Emir -...   Dec 15 2009, 02:00 AM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (intemperateControl @ Dec 15 2009, 01...   Dec 15 2009, 02:38 AM
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- - Neurologi   Sums it up pretty much for me. The voice of reason...   Dec 15 2009, 10:40 AM
- - Caelumamittendum   I know this is not a solution to anything, but rat...   Dec 15 2009, 11:30 AM
- - lcsdds   This thread is saddening. The tone of the article...   Dec 21 2009, 09:20 PM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 21 2009, 08:20 PM) Ve...   Dec 22 2009, 12:36 AM
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- - Fran   Hey Emir, have you checked this?: http://www.guita...   Dec 22 2009, 12:43 AM
|- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (Fran @ Dec 21 2009, 11:43 PM) Hey ...   Dec 22 2009, 12:51 AM
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- - Staffy   In my honest opinion the whole music business is n...   Dec 22 2009, 01:37 AM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (Staffy @ Dec 22 2009, 01:37 AM) In...   Dec 22 2009, 04:11 PM
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- - Emir Hot   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 22 2009, 12:28 AM) Ho...   Dec 22 2009, 03:55 AM
|- - jstcrsn   Link?[/quote] http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/gui...   Dec 22 2009, 02:25 PM
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- - intemperateControl   Emir, Do you know the names/ web addresses of any ...   Dec 22 2009, 04:23 PM
|- - lcsdds   QUOTE (intemperateControl @ Dec 22 2009, 04...   Dec 22 2009, 06:31 PM
|- - intemperateControl   QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 22 2009, 11:31 AM) Se...   Dec 22 2009, 09:49 PM
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- - Marek Rojewski   I don't want to get involved in this discussio...   Dec 22 2009, 07:07 PM
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- - JamesT   At least for one, I can say that my entire music c...   Dec 22 2009, 09:54 PM
|- - intemperateControl   QUOTE (JamesT @ Dec 22 2009, 02:54 PM) At...   Dec 22 2009, 10:01 PM
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- - jstcrsn   ALL THIS TALK ABOUT stealing or buying music and ...   Dec 22 2009, 11:04 PM
|- - intemperateControl   QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Dec 22 2009, 08:53 PM) ...   Dec 23 2009, 06:50 AM
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- - Staffy   Hmm, it's really some sad figures - but it doe...   Dec 23 2009, 09:41 AM
- - blindwillie   A band making another statement Homepage: http://w...   Jan 9 2010, 03:32 PM
- - Emir Hot   Well good luck to them They have made their money...   Jan 9 2010, 04:18 PM
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- - Emir Hot   Sorry are you asking me to answer these? I have st...   Jan 9 2010, 05:22 PM
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- - Staffy   Agree JVM, what I'm seeing here is that the ...   Feb 12 2010, 10:30 PM
- - Kristian Hyvarinen   I'd like to ask the people who are against fre...   Feb 12 2010, 11:45 PM
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- - Gitarrero   I want to agree to what Kristian said before. I am...   Feb 13 2010, 03:16 PM
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