Kris-must Charm :: Audio Collaboration, GMC students and instructor collab Options

[Darius Wave]

Welcome to...

The KRIS-MUST CHARM collaboration

To celebrate those Christmas together, we've prapared an audio collaboration for all of You The face of the collab is THE MAN himself - Kris Dahl! He was kind enough to prepare this "chocolate box cover type" of photo (I think You could easily sell it to the biggest candy trademarks) - thanx Kris!

So...how it's gonna look like?

1. It's an audio collaboration open for any GMC member, who is able to record a solo over delivered backing track
2. Backing track  kris_must_charm_collab_backing.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 903
is simple (key of D-major) and will allow everyone (no matter which skills level ) to join us
3. Deadline to deliver Your solo is 03.01.2015
4. Post Your take in this topic (upload to soundcloud or similar)
5. Post Your files in this topic (mp3 with at least 128 kbps quality,16 bit wav files are warm welcome). We need two files - 1. Your solo without the backing track 2. Your solo mixed with the backing track for reference
6. If You want to join us so much, but You're not able to record guitar separately from the backing track, just give us what You have and We'll try to do our best, to fit it to the final collab mix
7. Tempo of the track is 140. You will save us a bit of time if Your'e able ti mixdown within exact bar markers in Your DAW (easier to sync in the final mix)
8. You can always count for additional help in this particular topic. Just ask - You'll get help from both - students and instructors

..:: TIPS ::...

1. If You feel You're not familiar with major scale, You can use B-aeolina minor scale (it covers exactly the same notes as D-major). Even more simple - You can use just a B-minor pentatonic.

2. Need inspirations? Go to a search box above and review some of the lessons by typing "D-major". You can see some of the cool licks and phrasing tips right from the lessons available at GMC.

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EDIT - RESULTS:

THE FINAL MIX TIME!

First of all I would like to thank every single one of Your for all the effort to make this happen. I think again we brought something great by doing it together and showing it's not the skills level and not the playing genre but the kind of people we are that makes us able to enjoy doing such a collabs together...and "Nothing else matters" Huge hugs to all of You!

Order of Appearance:

1. Jim S. - solo and backing electric guitar
2. Darius Wave - acoustic guitars
3. Rhida and Superize - jam
4. Beat Zbinden
5. HiimAlex
6. Nick6373
7. Huargo
8. Sensible Jones
9. Procyon
10. Renan & Phil66 - jam
11. Bleez + Chris S. - jam
12. DeGroot
13. Monica Gheorghevici
14. Cosmin Lupu
15. Guitarrero
16. Kristofer Dahl - vocal and guitar solo

http://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/kris-must-charm-gmc-students-and-instructors-collaboration

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[Procyon]

Thank you very much for your feedback, Darius, Kris and Cosmin - I appreciate it very much!

@ Kris: I completely agree - this type of echo is not very appropriate for this kind of soft track. Unfortunately I noticed it only after having recorded my take. So I tried to improve and recorded a second version. What do you think?

And yes - it would be more than awesome if Knopfler could sing or Slash would shred...

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[Kristofer Dahl]

Thank you very much for your feedback, Darius, Kris and Cosmin - I appreciate it very much!

@ Kris: I completely agree - this type of echo is not very appropriate for this kind of soft track. Unfortunately I noticed it only after having recorded my take. So I tried to improve and recorded a second version. What do you think?

And yes - it would be more than awesome if Knopfler could sing or Slash would shred...

Still sounds lovely. The delay time and level is still set so that I can clearly hear the snap / attack part of the your sound at least twice, but after all sound is a matter of personal preference and since you seem to gravitate towards this type of sound I can't really recommend you should change it!

I love how everyone is so involved with this one.
So inspiring!
Thanks GMCers! Keep'em coming!

Here's my new take, more right to the point and with more expression I hope.

Hi Rhida, this take still involves faster passages and as mentioned this is when I can hear syncing problems between your right/left hand as well as some timing issues (that are most likely a result of you pushing speed). These are not things you can quickly address. If you want to fix this as fast as possible, then you should practice at least one hour per day with any kind of picking exercise - and play super relaxed far below your comfort speed. Give it a month or two and you will start to notice results that will show in collabs as well.

If you would like to improve your take for this collab - your best bet is to work on a simplified solo that has no fast sections at all.

I would suggest that with the help of Cosmin - you set one mentor thread up with the specific task to polish and simplify your take, working against the deadline.

When you are done with that, you could start a new thread where you set up monthly goals that involve improving your general technique and more specifically hand synchronization.

Please let me know if you would like to give this a shot?

Ok folks, here's my little attempt. I'm not expecting to get in the finished article but it's all about joining in and getting feedback eh?
I've kept it simple rather than go beyond my skill level.
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Cheers

Phil

Hi Phil, thanks so much for submitting your take. Everyone will make it to the final product.

This is a very nice, static/dreamy kind of solo. You do everything by the book with the way you build this solo, without forgetting the ever so important breathing rooms. This immediately helps elevate your take, musically.

The beginning phrases are pretty much by the book as I said, so the next step is to start thinking about those subtle details which can turn - apparently simple - phrases into heart melting music. This is not a fast thing to do, I worked for 9 months to become more aware of those subtle details in this solo. Yet I am not sure the recording turned out 'heart melting'

And the idea was quite simple: play it over and over and try to analyse how a micro bend here, a ritardando there, softer picking etc - affects the whole thing. Once you become aware of those tiny details, you can start using them as tools - just the same way as you would use a picking vs hammer-ons etc.

If you want to try and boost your take before the deadline, I would suggest you try to get a warmer sound. This can be done with a pedal or software, or by simply adding some light overdrive/distortion on your amp and maybe turn down the treble.

Play the solo every day until the deadline - most effective will be if you can split your sessions up into 3x30 minutes per day. And spread those sessions out during the day. The idea is to practice this with full concentration, if you start thinking about other things while playing - you should stop and rest your brain (do something else).

I think you have potential to deliver something very interesting with such a strong start!

Uff high level here!
This is my take... or first shot
I change the final part of the gp5 file because it was imposible to play right with my actually skills... but the new final sounds cool too... but it's not very well played yet ummm...

hope you liked!


https://soundcloud.com/david-vico-2/the-kris-must-charm-collab-huargo-mix


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Ouch this one put a smile on my face, and you make me look silly because you showed that it's perfectly possible to pull of some intense stuff from the beginning without making any musical compromises.

I can't really recommend you to change anything, sound is beautiful to me - and you built the melody up perfectly with melodic/harmony dubs, and you save your horse power and high notes until the end which is the safest way to do it, and it works! You also introduced jazzy double (etc) stops which almsot feel like a must over this backing (figuratively speaking) now that we've heard your take.

Man this was beautiful, I would have been very proud if this was my take!

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