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Gert1973
Jul 20 2023, 03:07 PM
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Hi Monica,

Yesterday I started studying the first video and I have problems to see what's really going on and how some notes are executed. I have tried to lower the video speed at 50% but even then it goes too fast. So I will write down underneath step by step what I think is going on in the first 2 bars:

1) Downstroke B-string 10th fret and bend up full tone (in the main video he does vibrato 6 oscillations but not in the slow video) and hold.
2) Downstroke B-string with full release (or half release? I can not see it clear) of the B-string and then bend up full tone again and bring it back down.
3) Pull of B-string 10th fret with ring finger and play note on 8th fret B-string (play note with index?)
4) The note from 8th fret to 7th fret on B-string is unclear to me how he does that. He's not picking the string so I'm guessing pull off and I think he also does a slide. But on the TAB there's not slide mentioned. This is the part I really can not see what's going on.
5) Downstrike G-string 7th fret with middle finger and slide to 9th fret + vibrato (4 oscillations)
6) Then he does a slide on G-string from 9th fret to 2nd fret without picking the G-string. But it looks like he touches the G-string with his pick?
7) Downstrike G-string index finger 2nd fret and bend twice half tone up.
8) On second bend hold and pick G-string again, release bend with pull off with index G-string
9) Downstrike D-string middle finger on 4th fret and slide to 5th fret D-string + vibrato 7 oscillations

There's a lot going on in these 2 first bars laugh.gif

I have quickly looked at the other video's 2-6 and it seems more clear how everything needs to be played.


Cheers,
Gert

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Gert1973
Aug 18 2023, 03:39 PM
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Hi Monica,

It took me a while to post a first take of this lesson because it needed a lot of studying and practice to get it a little bit decent to listen too laugh.gif

Although there will be many things to improve, I already really like how this take sounds. I love the sound and the vibe of this lesson very much!

It's the first time I think I have a lesson where the slow videos are not at the same speed as the lowest bpm. So it took me some time to find out the correct tempo to play everything at 40bpm

The sound that the instructor uses, is not the same as my sound. He does not give any information about the sound so I had to look for a sound that's similar. But you know that's not an easy task. I like my sound although the sound of the instructor has more bite...

Here's the take:


6: pitch is too high
12: these 2 notes (slide) need to be played faster
13: I don't know how to perform the vibrato. I think it should be a lot slower?
14: I'm still trying to find out how to make that technique where he slides back after the last note. I think it's easier when you use more gain. I use a cleaner sound. That makes it harder I guess...
17: double bend: it's much harder close to the neck. I can hear I lose pitch. So that needs more practice.
22: I think the pull of sounds good
23-46: this part is easier, but has again the slide backwards and the vibrato that needs more work
47: this bend needs to be played slower
51-56: maybe the best part of this take biggrin.gif

Ok, I await your probably very long list of issues that needs to be fixed laugh.gif

Cheers,
Gert

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Monica Gheorghev...
Aug 18 2023, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Aug 18 2023, 02:39 PM) *
Hi Monica,

It took me a while to post a first take of this lesson because it needed a lot of studying and practice to get it a little bit decent to listen too laugh.gif

Although there will be many things to improve, I already really like how this take sounds. I love the sound and the vibe of this lesson very much!

It's the first time I think I have a lesson where the slow videos are not at the same speed as the lowest bpm. So it took me some time to find out the correct tempo to play everything at 40bpm

The sound that the instructor uses, is not the same as my sound. He does not give any information about the sound so I had to look for a sound that's similar. But you know that's not an easy task. I like my sound although the sound of the instructor has more bite...

Here's the take:


6: pitch is too high
12: these 2 notes (slide) need to be played faster
13: I don't know how to perform the vibrato. I think it should be a lot slower?
14: I'm still trying to find out how to make that technique where he slides back after the last note. I think it's easier when you use more gain. I use a cleaner sound. That makes it harder I guess...
17: double bend: it's much harder close to the neck. I can hear I lose pitch. So that needs more practice.
22: I think the pull of sounds good
23-46: this part is easier, but has again the slide backwards and the vibrato that needs more work
47: this bend needs to be played slower
51-56: maybe the best part of this take biggrin.gif

Ok, I await your probably very long list of issues that needs to be fixed laugh.gif

Cheers,
Gert

Hi Gert!

It's great to hear that you like this lesson so much. smile.gif I also think it's a very beautiful lesson and every time I listen to it, it gives me a good mood.

It will be quite a hard task to match the tone for this lesson but we do not hurry. wink.gif Let's do this step by step. First of all, you need to add a little more gain in tone and a little more FX (search if you find a nice vintage reverb).
I think for FX, Sinisa used in Guitar Rig a combination between Psychedelay and Vintage Verb. I know the sound very well because I used the same combination a lot of times.

0:06 - yes, the first bend is too high. biggrin.gif

0:09 - 0:12 - you don't start this lick on a correct beat. I advise you to slowdown the main video (50%) and count the beats.
Anyway....to fit this lick at such a slow tempo, you need to count in this way:
When you start the first bend (0:06) start counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and on 7th play the "10 prb", on 8th play the G and F# notes (8, 7 fret). The slide from D to E starts at number 1.

0:13 - yes, the vibrato needs to be executed slower

0:14 - this backward slide after the last note should be made very slow. It's just a normal slide. Let your finger slip on the string. This point is valid for all these types of slides from your take.

0:17 - yes, you reach the pitch but you lose it. On that fret is a little harder to make the bends, but time will solve this. wink.gif

0:17 - 0:22 - wrong timing on this spot. Don't rush. When you start the bend, count 1,2,3,4,5,6, on 7th start to play the rest of the notes.

0:51 - very beautiful bend. Agree with you, it is the best part of your take. smile.gif Try just to play the rest of the notes more legato and it will be perfect.

Overall, it sounds ok for a first take. After you will play at the correct timing all the licks, things will become easier.

For next time, fix the things that I pointed out. Don't bother at this moment about the vibrato, because we will work on this after we put the playing in the good direction. wink.gif

Have a great evening!

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- Gert1973   Winter Ballad   Jul 20 2023, 03:07 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Jul 20 2023, 02:07 PM) ...   Jul 20 2023, 04:24 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hello again Monica, A new take on the first bars ...   Aug 24 2023, 03:19 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Aug 24 2023, 02:19 PM) ...   Aug 24 2023, 05:34 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, The past days I focused on timing on t...   Aug 29 2023, 04:30 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Aug 29 2023, 03:30 PM) ...   Aug 29 2023, 05:29 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, The journey with this lesson continues...   Sep 11 2023, 04:45 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 11 2023, 03:45 PM) ...   Sep 11 2023, 05:58 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, Here's a new take on this beautifu...   Sep 18 2023, 04:54 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 18 2023, 03:54 PM) ...   Sep 18 2023, 06:13 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, Today I achieved something you have no...   Sep 20 2023, 09:40 AM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 20 2023, 08:40 AM) ...   Sep 20 2023, 10:46 AM
|- - Gert1973   QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Sep 20 2023, 11...   Sep 21 2023, 05:01 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 21 2023, 04:01 PM) ...   Sep 21 2023, 06:43 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, I prepared a take and for the first ti...   Sep 28 2023, 12:00 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 28 2023, 11:00 AM) ...   Sep 28 2023, 01:21 PM
|- - Gert1973   QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Sep 28 2023, 02...   Sep 28 2023, 02:06 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Sep 28 2023, 01:06 PM) ...   Sep 28 2023, 02:21 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hello Monica, Guess what... I went in against you...   Oct 3 2023, 04:11 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Oct 3 2023, 03:11 PM) H...   Oct 3 2023, 05:34 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi again Monica, Very productive day today I ...   Oct 6 2023, 03:23 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Oct 6 2023, 02:23 PM) H...   Oct 6 2023, 05:24 PM
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- - Gert1973   And I'm back again!! One broken st...   Oct 27 2023, 05:13 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Oct 27 2023, 04:13 PM) ...   Oct 27 2023, 06:12 PM
|- - Gert1973   QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Oct 27 2023, 07...   Oct 28 2023, 08:59 AM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Oct 28 2023, 07:59 AM) ...   Oct 28 2023, 12:03 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi Monica, Back with a new (killer in my opninion...   Nov 14 2023, 01:16 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Nov 14 2023, 12:16 PM) ...   Nov 14 2023, 02:07 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hello Monica, This take was posponed last week du...   Nov 27 2023, 01:47 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Nov 27 2023, 12:47 PM) ...   Nov 27 2023, 02:41 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hi again Monica, And yes... I also have prepared ...   Dec 8 2023, 01:13 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Dec 8 2023, 12:13 PM) H...   Dec 8 2023, 02:20 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hello Monica, Second attempt on full speed of thi...   Dec 27 2023, 01:10 PM
|- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Gert1973 @ Dec 27 2023, 12:10 PM) ...   Dec 27 2023, 02:31 PM
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- - Gert1973   Hello Monica, I present to you REC attempt number...   Jan 7 2024, 02:25 PM
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