C Major / D Dorian / A Minor, What is the difference when you soloing in this keys |
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C Major / D Dorian / A Minor, What is the difference when you soloing in this keys |
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Feb 25 2008, 12:06 AM |
Sorry for bumping in before Muris, but i will leave the main question for him to answer
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Feb 25 2008, 05:29 AM |
No worries Pavel,glad you've found a country mate,
I'm sure there are many more at GMC tho. On topic,what determines mode and its sound comparing to other scales/modes with same notes is chord progression most of all. You cannot get this after only couple of chords, you have to listen to whole tune or at least part of tune to realize chord progression/key. Few examples: C,Am,F,G,C- C Ionian Am,Dm,G,Am- A Aeolian F,F,G,F - F Lydian Dm,G,C,Dm,Am,Dm - D Dorian G,F,G,G,C,F,G - G Mixolyidian As for the soloing,you don't have to start with root note at all. Scale is just group of 7 notes(diatonic scales),you pick whatever you want from there and make some music from it. All you have to do is to use it wise. Another example,you're in key of Am and you're using Am scale or Am pentatonic. Reasonable enough,you'll lay down on A note here and there,on root chord lets say. Now do the same in key of C(on root chord per example) and it'd be "weak", cause C chord doesn't have A note. Try it and you'll see what I mean. Same thing goes with rest of the modes, you have the scale/mode but you need to follow chord progression to get smooth phrasing over it. -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 25 2008, 10:54 AM |
Thanks alot!
I think i got it |
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Feb 25 2008, 10:54 AM |
You[re welcome
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Mar 9 2008, 02:32 AM |
I knew it'd come to this Eddie,and I'm damn glad!
Here's the deal with that G7 chord. Actually it's chord on 6th degree of natural minor scale,B minor in our case. 7th is added to get a kind of bluesy sound from it. G Mixolydian would be wrong. But G Mixolydian #4 might be the scale you're looking for. Why might be? Simple because we're still in key of B so we're looking for a scale with B note as a root. That scale is B minor -5. But as you can see,I didn't use that scale, I was only playing around notes of G7 chord. But if you're looking for a scale,that would be a scale. Maybe it has another name,dunno, to me it's reasonable enough to call it minor -5. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 9 2008, 03:07 PM |
No Eddie,bass goes on G over G7 chord but we're still in Bm key.
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Mar 9 2008, 03:40 PM |
How stupid of me to have asked you this!
I guess I'm trying to understand too many things at once. Back to practice. Cheers Eddie |
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Mar 9 2008, 03:44 PM |
That's not stupid question at all Eddie.
Whatever bass is on G or B you're still shifting through different scales with B as a root note, keep exploring,well done! -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 9 2008, 05:25 PM |
Yes Eddie,that's right,or that's at least the way I see things.
I put all minor modes in group of current minor key. Same thing with major modes. Maybe I'm wrong,dunno, but it works fine,easier to track things imho. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 9 2008, 08:28 PM |
That progression is really fine example of how to mix few scales.
You may stick with C Aeolian over Fm as well,kind a small modulation into Cm key. Or you can play C Ionian with flat 6th. Dunno the name for Ionian with flat 2nd and 6th tho it's just like Phrygian Dominant with sharp 7th, too many names,I just can't follow it all. Once more,theory is just a way to explain the things you're playing. And if you hit couple of cool names for certain scales,bingo. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 9 2008, 08:35 PM |
I forgot to say,you can look at Fm as a root chord,
which opens a lot more options scale wise. F harmonic minor over C,F natural minor over Fm. Or even F Dorian over Fm,explore,like always. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 9 2008, 08:54 PM |
You're welcome Eddie,keep working.
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Mar 12 2008, 05:49 PM |
Yeas Eddie,Phrygian Dominant has major 3rd while Phrigian has minor 3rd,
it's mode on 5th degree of harmonic minor scale. -------------------- Youtube
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