Finally Got My Midi Controller But...., don't know how to use it :(
Ivan Milenkovic
Jan 29 2008, 12:24 AM
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Hi guys, I bought (finally) a new MIDI controller - M-Audio Oxygen 49

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The trouble is now - I don't know how to use it. I can use only the keys and all, but I don't have a clue how to connect the faders to lets say the faders in the Nuendo Mixer, or to assign knobs to some functions....

Can someone who knows how that stuff works explain it to me in beginners terms, cause I'm completely new at this. If it is too much to write at least give me some links where can I find a decent manuals of literature for this kind of work. Thanks smile.gif

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Ivan Milenkovic
Jan 29 2008, 12:49 AM
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I don't really understand what you mean man sad.gif

I use Nuendo, and it has MIDI Device Manager... I've tried to read a manual, but it gets to some MIDI mumbo-jumbo fast, and I'm having trouble following it sad.gif

Do you know how can I , for example assign ONE fader from the controller to , say, a fader of some audio track in the mixer?? Or...how to have a preset bank and when I open a new prohect, transport buttons and other assigned buttons are operational?....

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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 28 2008, 11:49 PM) *
I don't really understand what you mean man sad.gif

I use Nuendo, and it has MIDI Device Manager... I've tried to read a manual, but it gets to some MIDI mumbo-jumbo fast, and I'm having trouble following it sad.gif

Do you know how can I , for example assign ONE fader from the controller to , say, a fader of some audio track in the mixer?? Or...how to have a preset bank and when I open a new prohect, transport buttons and other assigned buttons are operational?....


Is the manual for Nuendo online somewhere? I can take a look but won't have time to til after work tonight. I've never used it so I can't talk directly to how it works without looking at the manual. It looks a lot like Cubase. I think you should be able to assign your buttons and faders once and then save that as a template somewhere.

To break the explanation down, MIDI is pretty simple. Each key, knob, button and fader has a number assigned to it that is its identity in your controller. When you move a fader, or push a key on the keyboard, it sends MIDI codes to describe what you just did. The code starts with the identifier of what part of the controller you're touching and follows with more codes to describe what you're doing.

For example, if you push a key on the keyboard, it'll send a code that says something like '60 is on with a velocity of 50'.

Keyboard keys are easy because the ID's are always the same...middle C is "60"...so the keyboard part will always map in whatever program you're using. What you're running into is that when you turn a knob, you're sending something like "86's value is 99" and Nuendo doesn't know what part of its interface to assign "86" to.

You don't necessarily need to know a ton about MIDI to get this done...all you're really dealing with is assigning the MIDI ID's of your physical interface to the interface of your software. Once you figure out the process for Nuendo, you don't have to mess with it much after.

Not that it'll hurt you to know how it works. If you're recording your software's just recording the MIDI data that your controller is sending. If you don't like some part of what you played, you can go back into the recorded data and change it without having to re-record anything. Also, if you start adding more devices it helps to know how it all works to keep them in sync and to track down problems.

If anyone cares, I can dig up some links to stuff tonight that can help explain things some more. I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning and I haven't thought about MIDI in about a year. I'm not an expert but I do know some stuff in this area.

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- Milenkovic Ivan   Finally Got My Midi Controller But....   Jan 29 2008, 12:24 AM
- - Scott Gentzen   QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 28 2008, 11...   Jan 29 2008, 12:39 AM
|- - Muris   I had my Midi Controller Keyboard connected with R...   Jan 29 2008, 02:39 AM
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- - Juan M. Valero   interesting topic, I want to buy a MIDI controller...   Jan 29 2008, 08:30 AM
|- - Twibeard   QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Jan 29 2008, 08:3...   Jan 29 2008, 01:09 PM
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- - Milenkovic Ivan   I will do some researching on the net and see if I...   Jan 29 2008, 12:10 PM
- - Milenkovic Ivan   Thanks for the advices guys!! I have searc...   Jan 29 2008, 09:15 PM
|- - Scott Gentzen   QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 29 2008, 08...   Jan 30 2008, 04:06 AM
|- - Pavel   QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 29 2008, 09...   Jan 30 2008, 11:10 AM
|- - Muris   I still can't recall how I connected my contro...   Jan 30 2008, 11:18 AM
|- - Scott Gentzen   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 30 2008, 10:18 AM) I s...   Jan 31 2008, 07:52 PM
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- - Dejan   I also have M-Audio midi keyboard, but keystation ...   Jan 30 2008, 11:24 AM
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- - Dejan   For me it is easier to mix with mouse, using autom...   Jan 30 2008, 11:34 AM
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- - Paul Coutts   There's a piece of software on the M-Audio web...   Jan 30 2008, 11:59 AM
- - Dejan   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 30 2008, 11:55 AM) Mar...   Jan 30 2008, 12:02 PM
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- - Milenkovic Ivan   QUOTE (Paul Coutts @ Jan 30 2008, 11:59 A...   Jan 30 2008, 12:50 PM
- - Milenkovic Ivan   Well my friends, I have solved the problem. In Nu...   Jan 31 2008, 01:07 AM
|- - Muris   Wow,glad you found it,congrats!! Have fun.   Jan 31 2008, 02:15 AM
|- - Juan M. Valero   QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 31 2008, 01...   Jan 31 2008, 08:19 AM
|- - Scott Gentzen   QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Jan 31 2008, 12...   Jan 31 2008, 07:53 PM
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- - Paul Coutts   hahahaha, yeah, steinberg is hell to get set up......   Jan 31 2008, 05:00 AM
- - Milenkovic Ivan   Thanks guys I'll be writing a review of the ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:42 PM
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