People Should Stop Wasting Time On Guitar Exercises |
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Jan 16 2018, 04:29 PM
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Words by Marty Friedman. Full interview here: LINK.
"Ditch the scales already. People tend to talk about music in relation to scales, but I don't think that way at all. "I think in terms of phrases and melodies, and the interesting little in-roads that go from one place to another over a chord or a series of chords. "The liberating side of it is that I never had to memorize billions of different scales. The downside is that if someone asked me to play a particular scale, I couldn't do it... but that never really comes up. "The point is making something sound right to your own ears - that way it doesn't have to be a memorized sequence of notes. I remember a long time ago, I regretted doing this instructional video because they asked me to explain scales and shit like that." This is an interesting approach and it surelly developes uniqueness. However, maybe it could limite us. I'm more on the balanced side, in other words in the middle of scale fan nerd and anti scale approach. What do you think? -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 16 2018, 05:58 PM
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Statements like this crack me up.
He may be 'right' (music isn't about scales), but 90% of everything that guy plays is scale, arpeggio and pattern based. * I like Marty - he has really good feel and a relaxed technique * It's only ever instrumental rock guitar players who say stuff like this. We get a bad rap because a lot of the time we do sound like scale machines w/o any feel or soul - so I guess it's a thing to disassociate yourself for the scale camp. Ask a jazz piano player or trumpet or sax player if they think scales are important. They'll say yes. The fact that he says, "The liberating side of it is that I never had to memorize billions of different scales" illustrates that he doesn't really get what they actually are or what they're good for. There aren't billions. There aren't even a hundred. You only need to know three scales or, I should say 3 collections of tones or groupings of notes: Major, Melodic Minor and Pentatonic (Harmonic Minor for extra credit). Everything else just comes from the 'modes' of those. It's all in how you think about and utilize those 3 or 4 scales. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 16 2018, 07:32 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 16 2018, 10:06 PM
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TBF he does say a lot of dumb stuff in this article. Im assuming he was a little high
--------------------  You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Jan 17 2018, 03:53 AM
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he seems to bad mouth things his bad picking technique holds him back from doing well
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Jan 17 2018, 04:41 AM
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Yup.
Todd QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 16 2018, 10:53 PM)  he seems to bad mouth things his bad picking technique holds him back from doing well |
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Jan 17 2018, 07:57 AM
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Maybe he has got a new album in the making? He likes to go out and provoke the guitar community before new releases!
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Jan 17 2018, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 17 2018, 03:57 AM) Maybe he has got a new album in the making? He likes to go out and provoke the guitar community before new releases! hahah so these are great news. 
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Jan 18 2018, 12:01 PM
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*coughcough*Martyyousillygoose*coughcough*
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Jan 18 2018, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 16 2018, 01:58 PM) The fact that he says, "The liberating side of it is that I never had to memorize billions of different scales" illustrates that he doesn't really get what they actually are or what they're good for. There aren't billions. There aren't even a hundred. You only need to know three scales or, I should say 3 collections of tones or groupings of notes: Major, Melodic Minor and Pentatonic (Harmonic Minor for extra credit). Everything else just comes from the 'modes' of those. It's all in how you think about and utilize those 3 or 4 scales. It's true that it's enough with those scales but Marty is known (or was, when he liked scales) by using Exotic Scales, so that's what he surely refers to. However, these scales are reductions of combinations of the 4 scales that you've listed. It's awesome to see how many different feels you can get depending on which notes you choose from the 12 tones of the chromatic scale. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonser.../Exotic-Scales/ https://www.pianoscales.org/exotic.html -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 18 2018, 02:19 PM
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Not strictly related but picture reminded me of Jason Becker - how tragic...
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Jan 18 2018, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 18 2018, 06:06 AM) It's true that it's enough with those scales but Marty is known (or was, when he liked scales) by using Exotic Scales, so that's what he surely refers to. However, these scales are reductions of combinations of the 4 scales that you've listed. It's awesome to see how many different feels you can get depending on which notes you choose from the 12 tones of the chromatic scale. He doesn't use very many (if any) 'exotic' scales. In that video, it's just the harmonic minor starting on different note other than the root. Adding one chromatic tone to scale doesn't count as 'exotic'. Even if he did employ actual exotic scales there's still not that many of them: a handful or two from Asia, N. Africa and the Mid East. *All those are utilized modally as well i.e., starting on different notes depending on the sound and texture you're looking for. The more vids of him I watch, especially the instructional type, the more I think he is completely full of shit. I still like the way he plays but in the immortal words of Frank Zappa, "shut up and play your guitar!" This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 19 2018, 03:44 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jan 19 2018, 01:20 PM
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Hahaha I also think that these are marketing comments.
For those that don't want to follow Marty's suggestions, I recommend this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Hirajo...Friedman-Style/ 
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