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Jul 24 2009, 06:45 PM |
Hi everybody. All the gain head out there! I need your help! I'm running Digitech Metal Master to a ENGL Fireball with Rocktron Super C running in the effect loop on high volume. I got tons of feedback, hiss and hum. Obviously, the rocktron super C doesn't seem to reduce the feedback, hiss at all. I've been trying the Rocktron for quite some times and it donesn't work. Is there anyway to kill all these feedback? Is that my setting on Rocktron is not correctly set? Thank you. Could be that it's not correctly set (which I believe) and for the second option try this -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Jul 24 2009, 07:29 PM |
The Rocktron is for hiss/noise and not really for feedback SensE. As to whether it is better before the amp or in the loop - experiment with positioning.
For feedback - before looking in to a feedback eliminator try a few other things. Feedback can vary according to the room you are in. First your positioning relative to the amp. Move around and see if it drops. Decouple your speaker cabinet from the floor - try putting it on a chair. Check which strings/frequencies are the worst offender/s and damp/mute them when feedback starts. As Zakk says consider different pickups. If none of these work then I'd suggest trying a good parametric eq to focus on the frequency that's causing the issue and deal with it. It's pretty similar in principle to a feedback eliminator but will also provide more versatility. A disadvantage is that you will have to find the problem yourself and set the eq up. If you don't want/haven't got the time to experiment with a parametric then look at a feedback eliminator as Emir suggests. The advantage of a feedback eliminator is that it can operate pretty much automatically. Disadvantage is that it may see a sustained note etc as feedback and cut it and unless set up properly could notch out frequencies you want and so adversely affect your overall tone. ps the type of parametric eq you need - if you go this way - requires a 'Q'. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Jul 24 2009, 09:47 PM |
100Watt head? Great! The Problem is solved, just ask a buddy to get behind the amp while you stand where you always stand with your guitar. Mute your strings then release them; you will get feedback. Ask your friend to turn the Gate up slowly and keep muting all strings and then release them. Do this until all the feedback is gone when you are not plucking any strings and keep the noisegate at that level! If I got it right he's on clean, I suspect the Engl noise gate only operates on the lead channel. To my logic it would be overkill to have it also on the clean. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Jul 25 2009, 07:51 AM |
If I got it right he's on clean, I suspect the Engl noise gate only operates on the lead channel. To my logic it would be overkill to have it also on the clean. Yeah, I think so, they have noise reduction only for overdrive channels. Tho I believe Zakk was talking about Super C. -------------------- Youtube
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Jul 27 2009, 11:01 PM |
I would agree with Zakk and not use the pedal at all man. This pedal is way to low quality compared to the amp, it can only limit it's potential. Of course you could be used to this pedal and get a good sound of it so I guess there is a meaning of use here. Just try to keep the pedal in the function of pushing the front end of your amp instead of using distortion from a pedal. Pedal is distorting way to bad compared to sweet sweet tubes from ENGL. If you had some boutique overdrive or tube preamp that could have a meaning, but Digitech Metal Master, I doubt it. At least try to make some combinations or use the drive from the amp for a while just to experiment a bit with the settings, you might get some cool sounds.
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Jul 28 2009, 12:26 PM |
+1 to Zakk and Ivan, I would also suggest that you ditch the Metal Master. If you don't find the overdrive channel on the Fireball "metal-ish" enough, try to tighten and boost the overdrive channel with an OD pedal (like Maxon 808)
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