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Jan 5 2010, 10:45 PM
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Ii have the same problem :S i´m still tryn to figure out how to solve it :S
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Jan 6 2010, 12:57 AM
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It's all about micro-movements and micro-pauses on micro-tempos
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Jan 6 2010, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 6 2010, 10:43 AM)  Experienced players are making smaller movements your correct This happens naturally though with allot of practice, I have noticed it myself. It is my personal belief that the sub-conscious mind works out the most efficient way too pick given enough time The sub-conscious is pretty important. I notice that I'm only as fast as with what I feel comfortable and confident. At some point it will be impossible to count everything, but through practice you'll feel what is correct at higher speeds. --------------------  Roland Cube 30; Toneport GX; Cort kx1; Ibanez RG1570; Ibanez EW35ABE-NT http://www.last.fm/user/Mr_T83 |
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Jan 6 2010, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Jan 5 2010, 09:14 PM) I currently read the very good book of Guthrie Govan : Creative Guitar #1. This book is full of nice tips and tricks even for intermediate players to improve every aspect of our playing. I agree. I have both parts #1 and #2. Highly recomended for everyone. If you master these 2 books you can easily be there with the top guys. QUOTE On the chapter about speed, Guthrie points out something very interesting. Speed doesn't come from faster movements but from smaller movements and that experienced players probably move their fingers less than beginners. This is also true but this comes with time and experience where you get to the point that you don't really think much of your finger movement. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Jan 6 2010, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jan 6 2010, 11:38 AM) I agree. I have both parts #1 and #2. Highly recomended for everyone. If you master these 2 books you can easily be there with the top guys. This is also true but this comes with time and experience where you get to the point that you don't really think much of your finger movement. Hell yeah, those books are amazing!!  And ofc I agree with 2nd statement, you forget about those things eventually as you get to the stage when your movements are smaller naturally, the only way to get there is practicing.
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Jan 6 2010, 10:25 PM
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I agree to almost all Guthrie say's, if not all... These books is by the best I read on guitar playing so far. But regarding the fingers position I think the keyword is "control", since sometimes You will need those flying fingers to hit some notes really hard with hammer-ons, and sometimes You need Your thumb above the neck as well as holding it like a classical player. If You master all way's of playing You can't go wrong....
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Jan 6 2010, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jan 6 2010, 11:38 AM) I agree. I have both parts #1 and #2. Highly recomended for everyone. If you master these 2 books you can easily be there with the top guys. This is also true but this comes with time and experience where you get to the point that you don't really think much of your finger movement. Hey, as i read all this good stuff about those books it made me want to have them. Can you please tell me if these are the ones you were speaking about? Book #1 Book #2 Thank you! -------------------- rivers just happen
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Jan 6 2010, 10:39 PM
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Yeps, these are the ones!
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Jan 7 2010, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Jan 6 2010, 10:25 PM) I agree to almost all Guthrie say's, if not all... These books is by the best I read on guitar playing so far. But regarding the fingers position I think the keyword is "control", since sometimes You will need those flying fingers to hit some notes really hard with hammer-ons, and sometimes You need Your thumb above the neck as well as holding it like a classical player. If You master all way's of playing You can't go wrong.... //Staffay Absolutely!! You can't have small movements for everything, both hands included.
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Jan 7 2010, 03:04 AM
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I agree, big movements are just as good, as long as they are executed properly.
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Jan 7 2010, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE (-Zion- @ Jan 7 2010, 08:08 AM) ya.. i think a lot of the problem lies in the movement radius of your wrist and what i would call "flying fingers", and this i believe is a primary objective to minimize in order to reach faster-than-light-blowing-up-the-sun shredding speed technique.. "flying fingers" is of course when you hit a note with your finger your finger fly too far away from the fretboard when you remove your finger again.. i do this, and my finger gets 3-4 cm away from the fretboard.. usually the index finger is alright, but the rest is just flying too far away most of the time.. the ideal would be to just raise the finger just above the string so it can just vibrate without your finger hitting it.. I've heard that if you focus completely on the flying fingers it can be "cured" by lots of practice, and the flying will be greatly minimized in a matter of week(s).. This is one of my main obstacles in achieving speed .. Thank you for the wonderful term .. Yes, I got flyin fingers too  .. I will try and get my hands on those books immediately. Cheers.
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Jan 7 2010, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (-Zion- @ Jan 7 2010, 09:42 AM) Ya, indeed.. however, for faster-than-light shredding you cannot have flying fingers.. thats my theory anyways.. Yeah, You've right about that, but on the other hand I would'nt put so much importance in this matter since the hands pretty much adjusts themselves to get the job done. In my experience - studying my own technique and comparing it to what it say's in books and even here - I have discovered that I'm playing pretty much how it "shall" be. And that is without ever paying any importance on such things as holding the guitar right, put Your fingers here or there or doin this or that etc. I think the hand movements just will come naturally if You practice a lot.... Picking is another story though.... (but I'm not a faster-than-light shredding player, so I might be wrong bout this...  )//Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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