Rec Announcement, Rules and Grading Process
skennington
Sep 30 2009, 12:20 AM
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Hi GMC,

Another REC announcement here updating you on the changes that will be taking place. We feel and hope you will find these changes for the better. smile.gif

First off, we would like you to keep doing as you are with uploads and detailing you equipment but we would also like you to create a poll with numbers 1-10. No need for anything other than numbers.

This poll is going to be used by the Instructors for grading and scoring purposes. No longer will they be looking for only 4 or 5 areas of your playing, just an overall impression of how well you captured the lesson. (1 being not even close to 10 being spot on)

Once you have opened your topic, with a poll, I will then move the thread to a top secret location within GMC where only Instructors will have access. As the Instructors grade the lessons (min 3) I will average them and move them back to the REC board where you will see your score and be able to read the comments. smile.gif

We think that by doing things this way, one certain area such as posture will not hurt a well played attempt and by the same token, great tone does not influence a poorly played attempt.

I hope all of you will like this new process as we will keep tweaking it til its perfect!

For those that have lessons awaiting grades now, I will began moving them shortly and adding the poll so need to do anything with those.

Cheers,
Steve (skennington)

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Chris Evans
Oct 1 2009, 04:33 PM
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different things work for different people, personally I wouldnt be submitting a REC take unless I felt pretty comfortable with the lesson as a whole in the first place, as mentioned, if I was just looking for feedback to improve on it then I`d be putting it into uploads or the relevant Instructors board for feedback on how I can get this lesson good enough.

the pass mark of 7.5 (or 75% as it was before) to me is pretty low and well achievable if the work on the lesson is put in, if it didnt hit the marks then I`d want to go back and improve on what let me down, thats the whole point of the grading, nothing has gone to waste.

In my opinion one of the biggest problem with the grading before was that "effort" put in was far too much of a major factor in the scoring, I would score everyone 100% for anything that they attempt, record and submit and I think the Instructors felt the same way too, the scoring now is an overall mark for the take and a little more realisitic of the performance overall, the comments given by the Instructors still follow the same criteria as they did before with pointers on how it could have been even better.

The REC program shouldnt just be looked at as a bulk upload of half attempts in the hope that they pass and get counted towards your overall score on the board, but a showcase of the hard work you`ve put in.

I can hold my hand up and say that the lessons I submitted for the REC I now no longer work on, and I think that would be the case (just guessing here) for most of the others, putting my neck out here laugh.gif there perhaps shouldnt have been some that passed, yet they did and would have been pushed to one side and marked as "completed", is that really any good for someones development? I`m not so sure, but going back to my opening line, different things work for different people smile.gif

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- skennington   Rec Announcement   Sep 30 2009, 12:20 AM
- - Sollesnes   Sounds very good! Looking forward to see it in...   Sep 30 2009, 12:34 AM
|- - skennington   QUOTE (Sollesnes @ Sep 29 2009, 07:34 PM)...   Sep 30 2009, 02:57 AM
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- - vampire18   thats actually great, when grading publicaly, few ...   Sep 30 2009, 12:35 AM
|- - skennington   QUOTE (vampire18 @ Sep 29 2009, 07:35 PM)...   Sep 30 2009, 12:46 AM
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- - NoSkill   Interesting. It seems like more administrative ov...   Sep 30 2009, 12:50 AM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   This is great, makes perfect sense. Can't wait...   Sep 30 2009, 12:51 AM
- - JamesT   What if my polls go to eleven? Just kidding...   Sep 30 2009, 01:39 AM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (JamesT @ Sep 30 2009, 02:39 AM) Wh...   Sep 30 2009, 08:43 AM
||- - CathShadow   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 30 2009, 09:4...   Sep 30 2009, 08:44 AM
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|- - mhskeide   QUOTE (JamesT @ Sep 30 2009, 02:39 AM) Wh...   Sep 30 2009, 12:01 PM
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- - Fingerspasm   Not quit sure I understand the part about creating...   Sep 30 2009, 01:46 AM
- - skennington   QUOTE (NoSkill @ Sep 29 2009, 07:50 PM) I...   Sep 30 2009, 01:54 AM
- - Neurologi   It sure sounds like a great improvement with more ...   Sep 30 2009, 02:02 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (Neurologi @ Sep 30 2009, 03:02 AM)...   Sep 30 2009, 10:01 AM
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- - jdriver   It's not a pole, it's a POLL.   Sep 30 2009, 02:47 AM
- - Keilnoth   As long as we have good feedbacks that will replac...   Sep 30 2009, 07:43 AM
- - josuegda   Hello, I´ve seen than all the submits since 20th...   Sep 30 2009, 09:13 AM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (josuegda @ Sep 30 2009, 10:13 AM) ...   Sep 30 2009, 09:21 AM
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- - Fran   Sounds good to me I'll be happy to wiki it a...   Sep 30 2009, 03:57 PM
- - Keilnoth   Hey guys, After my first failure with the new REC...   Oct 1 2009, 07:53 AM
- - Keilnoth   As I am sure I am not very clear, I expressed this...   Oct 1 2009, 09:39 AM
|- - Fingerspasm   QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Oct 1 2009, 03:39 AM) A...   Oct 1 2009, 12:30 PM
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- - wrk   Maybe i missed a part how the new system works or ...   Oct 1 2009, 11:39 AM
- - Keilnoth   If I understand well, the scoreboard don't sho...   Oct 1 2009, 12:31 PM
|- - skennington   QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Oct 1 2009, 07:31 AM) I...   Oct 1 2009, 02:21 PM
|- - Keilnoth   QUOTE (skennington @ Oct 1 2009, 03:21 PM...   Oct 1 2009, 03:42 PM
|- - skennington   QUOTE name='Keilnoth' post='428833...   Oct 1 2009, 05:57 PM
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- - Fran   Interesting thread QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Oct 1 ...   Oct 1 2009, 04:36 PM
- - NoSkill   QUOTE Now please take this comment as part of my o...   Oct 1 2009, 05:52 PM
- - Fran   QUOTE (NoSkill @ Oct 1 2009, 06:52 PM) Fo...   Oct 1 2009, 07:01 PM
- - Neurologi   Firstly, I have to commend everyone on their thoug...   Oct 1 2009, 09:36 PM
- - purple hayes   The REC program now has a striking similarity to H...   Oct 2 2009, 01:27 PM
- - Neurologi   Hehe. Nice one, Hayes!!!   Oct 2 2009, 01:31 PM
- - Keilnoth   hotornot ? Ok, let me get my leopard pants.   Oct 2 2009, 06:34 PM
- - josuegda   Hello, I´d like to ask one question. I´m tryi...   Oct 3 2009, 07:40 AM
|- - Boson   QUOTE (josuegda @ Oct 3 2009, 08:40 AM) I...   Oct 3 2009, 08:13 AM
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- - Matt23   These changes seem pretty good. I was wondering t...   Oct 3 2009, 07:28 PM
|- - Andrew Cockburn   I think that's a good point Matt - the procedu...   Oct 3 2009, 07:50 PM
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- - Fran   Maybe wait until the thread content is updated int...   Oct 3 2009, 07:56 PM
|- - Matt23   QUOTE (Fran @ Oct 3 2009, 07:56 PM) Maybe...   Oct 3 2009, 08:00 PM
|- - Andrew Cockburn   QUOTE (Fran @ Oct 3 2009, 02:56 PM) as th...   Oct 3 2009, 08:08 PM
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- - Fran   QUOTE (Matt23 @ Oct 3 2009, 09:00 PM) I...   Oct 3 2009, 08:05 PM
- - Matt23   I'd be quite happy with them being unlocked on...   Oct 3 2009, 08:08 PM
- - Fran   QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 3 2009, 09:0...   Oct 3 2009, 08:15 PM
|- - Matt23   QUOTE (Fran @ Oct 3 2009, 08:15 PM) No ne...   Oct 3 2009, 08:19 PM
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- - skennington   I agree with you guys being able to comment the ta...   Oct 3 2009, 08:52 PM
|- - Matt23   QUOTE (skennington @ Oct 3 2009, 08:52 PM...   Oct 3 2009, 08:55 PM
|- - skennington   QUOTE (Matt23 @ Oct 3 2009, 03:55 PM) Sou...   Oct 3 2009, 11:06 PM
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- - Fran   Sure, no problem   Oct 4 2009, 12:45 PM
- - skennington   It just occurred to me that students cannot post o...   Oct 4 2009, 06:51 PM
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