Emu 1616m?
antonskv
Mar 30 2010, 08:38 AM
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Hi Everybody,

I'm about to purchase a E-MU 1616M, and i wanted to ask if anybody here had any experience with the device.

And reg PCI version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=15189

There are PCIe x1 version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=19007

I would think that later be a better pick? Since i do have PCIe x1 port on my motherboard.

Also has any body had problems using it with any recording software? I use Ableton Live, so that's what interests me the most, but just case I'll ever want to switch, would be nice to know ahead of time if there are some limitations.

I'm upgrading Line6 UX1 to this interface, and have heard a lot of positive feedback about EMU 1616M and have high hopes for it.


Thanks guys

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Apr 12 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 12 2010, 09:45 AM) *
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I only hope that this whole thread of messages shows other non-Mac people that there is a way to match all those high-end Mac-friendly interfaces, without any sense of feeling inferior about being a PC user. 'Cause i've been hearing comments like "Oh well but for Audio work Mac is better, no?" when my friends are choosing a computer/laptop buy. That does make me sad, 'cause i'm a PC person since like 1990, and though while i can appreciate Macs (and might even get a Mac laptop, been thinking of it when i get extra $$), i don't discard PCs like something "lesser".

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FWIW Anton I work as an independent professional post production audio/mastering engineer. ALL of our platforms here are pc - 4 laptops for location with a SADiE LRX, one i7 64 bit desktop that currently runs Sequoia (soon to go to SADiE) and one backup 32 bit that is currently running Pyramix plus an old pc just for the internet. Provided you set up a pc for audio it's as good as Mac. Also the professional software we run here won't run on a Mac without emulation. I would also say that I know a lot of professionals in pre and post production audio who use pcs - so Macs are not industry standard for audio at all. I get sent a lot of stuff mixed on PT-HD to master because the mix engineers accept that I will get a better end result then they can. If Macs were the best for audio then I would either be out of business or I'd run Mac.

For interfacing I use Prism and Lavry ADDA - most pro end Mac users are on ProTools-HD a 192, or sometimes with Apogee. A Lavry DAC outperforms any PT and Apogee hardware in every subjective and objective audio test that has been done. For the pc interface - to get the signal in and out of the pc rather than for changing between analogue and digital - we use RME for light pipe and AES/EBU. RME are again known for producing the most stable audio drivers in the business. In ten years of using RME on a pc platform base the RME has never caused any downtime.

Now I'm not trying to start a mac vs pc debate - both are good and macs used to be more likely to run without conflicts straight out of the box. (That is no longer true though.) I just want to give you some info for the next time someone tells you that macs are better for audio wink.gif

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Apr 12 2010, 07:06 AM) *
FWIW Anton I work as an independent professional post production audio/mastering engineer. ALL of our platforms here are pc - 4 laptops for location with a SADiE LRX, one i7 64 bit desktop that currently runs Sequoia (soon to go to SADiE) and one backup 32 bit that is currently running Pyramix plus an old pc just for the internet. Provided you set up a pc for audio it's as good as Mac. Also the professional software we run here won't run on a Mac without emulation. I would also say that I know a lot of professionals in pre and post production audio who use pcs - so Macs are not industry standard for audio at all. I get sent a lot of stuff mixed on PT-HD to master because the mix engineers accept that I will get a better end result then they can. If Macs were the best for audio then I would either be out of business or I'd run Mac.

For interfacing I use Prism and Lavry ADDA - most pro end Mac users are on ProTools-HD a 192, or sometimes with Apogee. A Lavry DAC outperforms any PT and Apogee hardware in every subjective and objective audio test that has been done. For the pc interface - to get the signal in and out of the pc rather than for changing between analogue and digital - we use RME for light pipe and AES/EBU. RME are again known for producing the most stable audio drivers in the business. In ten years of using RME on a pc platform base the RME has never caused any downtime.

Now I'm not trying to start a mac vs pc debate - both are good and macs used to be more likely to run without conflicts straight out of the box. (That is no longer true though.) I just want to give you some info for the next time someone tells you that macs are better for audio wink.gif


Heh, truly makes me feel better. Sometimes against my own solid opinion i feel bad that i don't even know how to use a Mac since i never had one and never even used one to browse internet. Figured that its something "more professional" during those bad moments when some of audio hardware on my PC is giving me problems or doesn't perform as well. Those moments happen rarely but when they do, it sucks.

As far as having something concrete to say to "Mac is best for pro audio...", I'm gonna do this:

*prints out Tonymiro's posting in amount of 10 copies, laminates every piece and puts them into his bag*

I'll stick those printouts in their teeth, 'cause there is no way I'm gonna remember all that smile.gif

"Here chew on this, that was said by a pro. Now shut up, and stop making dilettante-like comments, which are nothing close to the truth. If you like Mac cause it looks cool and is considered cool by you friends - get it and don't pretend to be a specialist. You can make pro audio with either." smile.gif LOL LOL

Just kidding... hehe

BTW... I regret a lot, that when i was working for post production studio which was located hand-in-hand, i didn't learn more about audio recording and production... We were on same floor, i even cleaned that 1 million dollar mixer board once smile.gif smile.gif lol... If i knew i will get into it, i would've tried to pump as much info as i could. We used to hang out with Sound Engineers, i could have pumped some knowledge. Oh well that's in the past: "Could'a, Would'a, Should'a... Blah blah blah...". Would've been cool though. Would've had better luck making my stuff sound better from home recording if had some knowledge dropped on me, but most likely technology changed so much in last 8-10 years, i might've as well not benefited at all from that outdated info.... Who knows...

Anyway...

I'm off to connecting my KORG PadKONTROL to my new EMU... smile.gif Talk to you later.


Thanks man. For your help with my questions too. I hope one day i can return a favor.

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- antonskv   Emu 1616m?   Mar 30 2010, 08:38 AM
- - Staffy   QUOTE (antonskv @ Mar 30 2010, 09:38 AM) ...   Mar 30 2010, 09:10 AM
|- - antonskv   QUOTE (Staffy @ Mar 30 2010, 04:10 AM) I ...   Mar 30 2010, 11:29 AM
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|- - Staffy   QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 30 2010, 02:32 PM) ...   Apr 10 2010, 02:18 PM
|- - antonskv   QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 09:18 AM) +1...   Apr 10 2010, 03:49 PM
|- - Staffy   QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 04:49 PM) ...   Apr 10 2010, 04:38 PM
|- - antonskv   QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 11:38 AM) Ye...   Apr 10 2010, 06:43 PM
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- - antonskv   Whew, more i hear, the more i'm convinced i wa...   Mar 30 2010, 02:01 PM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   I use 1212m and I can say with confidence that 161...   Mar 30 2010, 03:08 PM
|- - antonskv   QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 30 2010, 10...   Mar 30 2010, 09:45 PM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   Not a secret mate BTW I'm using 1212m, like...   Apr 2 2010, 11:16 PM
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- - tonymiro   QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 01:18 PM) .....   Apr 10 2010, 02:37 PM
|- - OzRob   QUOTE (tonymiro @ Apr 10 2010, 11:37 PM) ...   Apr 12 2010, 02:51 AM
|- - antonskv   QUOTE (OzRob @ Apr 11 2010, 09:51 PM) Ton...   Apr 12 2010, 07:36 AM
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- - Santiago Diaz Garces   I'm using M-audio Fasttrack and it's a rea...   Apr 10 2010, 08:46 PM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   I also recommend clean reinstall, and making XP as...   Apr 11 2010, 01:56 PM
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