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Oct 21 2014, 05:02 PM |
Let's use a song that you like as our structure template for developing one of those ideas, what do you say?
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Oct 22 2014, 04:41 PM |
Great ones! Let's analize the 3 of them, starting with the structure. It's tricky because in some of them, you won't identify verses and chorus, but you can talk about parts (A, B, C), bridges, solo sections, etc.
At first just write down the structures. -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 23 2014, 09:45 PM |
Hi Cael! Good job! This is a very useful analysis. I followed both songs with your structure and it helped me to understand clearly the whole thing. I consider Erotomania even richer to analyse because it's a full instrumental song. The parts could be grouped in even bigger blocks that will make it easier to use as template:
First section: Part A Part B Part A Part B Part C-1.0 Part D Part C-1.1 Prelude to solo Guitar solo on top of Part A simplified Second section: Part E Part F (Similar 2 E, but expanded a bit) Part G (Build up to acoustic part) Part H (Acoustic part) Third section Part I (Build up to solo) Guitar solo Part J Part K Tempo change and Part L Part C-1.2 Part M Part N (classic part and build up to solo) VERY FAST guitar solo in quintuplets! Part O Four section: Part A Part B Outro I think that it would be a good idea to use Erotomania as a template for your next song. If you agree, let's start building the first section. Do you think that you already have ideas that could fit as parts A, B and C ? -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 23 2014, 10:09 PM |
It's a good idea, I just don't have anything that I consider a good intro for such a thing. The best intro I can think of is the arpeggiated clean one. But I wouldn't say it works for this maybe. I'm not sure. I'm going to be away from tomorrow till Sunday though, but I'll give it a good think meanwhile! Let's save it maybe for a clean section in the middle... -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 27 2014, 03:57 AM |
Hi Cael, welcome back! I hope that you could rest this days off. I'll wait for your news.
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Oct 30 2014, 12:27 PM |
Also, here is another idea in 7/4 with a 8/4 thrown in there as well. Wanted to share it with you
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Oct 30 2014, 11:47 PM |
Hi Cael! Good job with these ideas! Congrats on the good feedback and likes at that group. You really deserve it.
These ideas are top level man, I can say that both are related so you could use them for the same song and I can say that they can be used for the structure that we wanted to use (Erotomania's). I was thinking that maybe the second video could be part A or B for this song, and the first one could be maybe C? What do you think? It's good to start defining which ideas you have and which ones you are lacking to work on them... -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 31 2014, 12:43 AM |
It's amazing what a few compliments from strangers can do! I posted the second idea I had and got great response as well on that as well as a few ideas on how I could improve it.
Worked a bit on something for the past 30 minutes or so, maybe this will work as an intro. I just don't know where to go from here again But it's the most intro ish I have. Bass needs some work, I only just put it in there instead of having no bass at all. Intro_idea.mp3 ( 830.79K ) Number of downloads: 294 This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Oct 31 2014, 01:07 AM |
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Nov 1 2014, 02:32 AM |
Great to know this mate! This also means that you don't trust in my words. I said lots of times that your ideas are so good and that if you can keep the energy to finish them you will be creating a very well received project.
I like the new introduction. It is naturally a good intro for a song. I feel that it could continue with a more aggressive riff, with drums at double tempo. And then get back to the most powerful part of the intro with a melody added. I imagine something like this: Intro (Clean + Metal slow groove) Intro II (more agressive idea - double drum rhythm) Verse I (intro metal slow groove + synth or guitar melody) Bridge (maybe still not created? or any of the previous video ideas?) Can you see something like this? -------------------- My lessons
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Nov 1 2014, 03:25 PM |
I trust your words, man, it's just always nice to hear from complete strangers I agree with the direction you're proposing, it's what I have had in mind, and I'm trying to come up with a good agressive riff Great! I'll be waiting for the new riff. Please record different ideas, no matter if you don't feel it's the right one. Don't get stuck, create. Remember that an idea can bring another one better then, it's like a chain. -------------------- My lessons
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Nov 2 2014, 01:52 PM |
I've stitched together a bit more, though I'm not sure how happy I am with it, but it's something at least!
EDIT: Here's a Soundcloud link instead: https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/intro-next-part-2 This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Nov 2 2014, 03:13 PM |
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Nov 2 2014, 09:36 PM |
Hi Cael! Great to see this one evolving. I love the sections from the beginning to 00:38, and also the part from 1:10 to the end. The middle section has good ideas but it's a bit long or repetitive. The faster solution would be to make it shorter (around 20 seconds), and the trickier solution would be to work on it a bit ore to add some rhythm variations with drums or guitar riffs. However, this "improvement" can wait by now and try to continue with the song.
Any ideas to continue this one? -------------------- My lessons
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