Song Writing! Options

[MickeM]

I'm fumbeling in the dark here but I think I have an idea for a lesson or a little bigger measure.
I'd like to learn how to write a descent song. Made my tries but can't seem to make them interesting enough.

It's usualy
Intro
verse
chorus
verse (copy paste of first verse)
bridge
chorus (copy paste of first chorus)

and copy & past it until it's at the least 3-4 minutes.

The result is usualy a song thats not so exciting since it sounds as if it repears itself... which it infact does.


So my idea here is to take a bigger grip around "how to write a song" with the help of teachers here.

The first example lesson could be, since we're guitarists, to add a rhythm guitar and solo to a predefined track and we'd run it as a project.

I'm dropping some names as example.

The project group decides on a genre and a brief description of the song - Rock, 120 bpm
Song build up as Intro, verse chorus verse bridge chorus chorus outro - length 2 minutes
Someone contributes with a text.
When all the basics for the song was set maybe Pavel could sontribute with a drum track suitable for the arrangement.
Someone adds a bass
Next, Luciana adds vocals (not the order I'd do it but for the lesson maybe neccessary)

Andrew suggests appropriate theory lessons if possible.

And then we get to work, each of us with our own backing track so to say, we keep a thread for discussions on how to proceed, what to tink about, suggestions, tips, tricks etc
We have out freedom to make whatever we can in order to make a good and interesting song.
Afterwards we present the result to instructors or publicly in the tread to recieve critisism on what to improve. Maybe we should stick to critisism on what to improve in order not to make it an admire-thread, it's an all skills are welcome lesson, of course, and noone should feel that some get positive response, others nothing and others only critisism on what to improve.
The final result could be moved to another thread for adminration


The point is to learn how to write songs and to make them interesting with enough variation for someone to enjoy a full length song. Would aquire a computer and a sequencer (Reaper is free) + soundcard where you can connect a mike or guitar.
And I see how this could expose people when posting their songs in public, so maybe we should strictly keep these threads in the private forum so everyone feel they can take part.

As a first step everything is served on a silver plate, drums, bass and vocals. Coming lessons could leave for us to add drums, bass and vocals ourselves.

I understand this takes some effort from Kris to arrange this with the teachers but I'm confident that's managable.

Does anyone but me think this is doable? And fun too maybe? I'm sure we all could benefit a lot from learning how to write songs.
Perhaps not exactly the way I suggested but with a discussion I'm positive we can come to a final concept that works.

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