Artificial Intelligence Is Gonna Kill Us All?
Todd Simpson
Jan 1 2019, 10:46 PM
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Some folks think that A.I. Artificial Intelligence, is going to replace us, kill us, etc. Just like a real version of the Matrix or Terminator. Here is a great documentary from National Geographic about it. What do you think?


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Jan 1 2019, 11:38 PM
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Adding this one to my list Tdd, I love the subject smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE (bleez @ Jan 1 2019, 03:38 PM) *
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Jan 2 2019, 11:44 AM
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IMHO neither replace, nor kill. It will help us by doing the work we don't want to be doing anyway.

AI, at the current state of it, is very good at interpolation on large data sets. In other words, it can process large amounts of data, learn dependencies between variables and use those to "understand" things which are somewhere close to the data is has learned from. Humans are quite bad a this. We make errors, get bored/tired quite quickly.

At the same time it's incapable of reasoning from small data sets and extrapolation. That's something humans can easily do.

I.e. AI will learn to identify cats if you feed it with lots of cat pictures. It will still fail to identify cats which are very different from any of the cats it has learned from.
At the same time, if you show a single picture of a cat to a child for the first time, he/she will be able to identify other cats regardless of it's color, size, position in the picture, lighting etc.

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The thing those movies fail to capture is that Skynet's intelligence advances at a speed roughly parallel to a smart human. The more probable outcome is that by the time an AI reaches human level intelligence or is "self aware" it will be advancing at an exponential rate. Meaning, mere seconds after reaching human level intelligence, it will be orders of magnitude more intelligent. From that perspective humans will be less than ants and it will likely either ignore us entirely or disassemble all carbon based life at a subatomic level, so it would have more in common with Thanos...

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Todd Simpson
Jan 3 2019, 09:41 PM
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Cool vid eh? Best one I found on the subject.
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QUOTE (Fran @ Jan 1 2019, 06:52 PM) *
Adding this one to my list Tdd, I love the subject smile.gif smile.gif


They mention the exponential growth potential of AI at some point in the documentary. I can't remember the exact spot or I'd give a time reference. I'm with ya though. The "Singularity" will just sorta happen. Intelligence is an "emergent property". It's not there until it is. Once it is there, it will grow faster than we can even conceive. Nanoseconds to awareness. At which point, we gotta know what it wants. smile.gif

QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jan 2 2019, 12:06 PM) *
The thing those movies fail to capture is that Skynet's intelligence advances at a speed roughly parallel to a smart human. The more probable outcome is that by the time an AI reaches human level intelligence or is "self aware" it will be advancing at an exponential rate. Meaning, mere seconds after reaching human level intelligence, it will be orders of magnitude more intelligent. From that perspective humans will be less than ants and it will likely either ignore us entirely or disassemble all carbon based life at a subatomic level, so it would have more in common with Thanos...

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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jan 2 2019, 05:06 PM) *
The thing those movies fail to capture is that Skynet's intelligence advances at a speed roughly parallel to a smart human. The more probable outcome is that by the time an AI reaches human level intelligence or is "self aware" it will be advancing at an exponential rate. Meaning, mere seconds after reaching human level intelligence, it will be orders of magnitude more intelligent. From that perspective humans will be less than ants and it will likely either ignore us entirely or disassemble all carbon based life at a subatomic level, so it would have more in common with Thanos...

I agree with that! Though if we're talking about extremes, I think the Matrix scenario is more probable where humans were dormant in their shells dreaming their lives while their real bodies were used as batteries.

I think there's already software detecting face while making photos and that's a first step towards machines' self-awareness. Big companies would probably be happy to have a machines that can do more precise work and adjust to each single product individually. Currently in mass production lines there still must be someone who'd correct badly placed materials on the conveyor belt and remove faulty products as soon as it's discovered. It will change once the machines learn to look, see and process the images the way humans do. I couldn't think of better examples but I think the AI will progress very fast once it reaches the certain stage. I don't like where this is going.

On the other hand, I would like to see mechanical hands or legs that could be plugged into the nerves that could become a replacement for people who lost their limbs in accidents or due to sicknesses. Sure, that would be transhumanism and I'm against it, mostly because there's always that one group of people who will use the new technology for bad purposes, so maybe it's better this doesn't exist.

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