Ehx Flatiron Fuzz
Mertay
Dec 18 2018, 04:47 PM
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https://www.ehx.com/products/flatiron-fuzz



EHX does really good affordable pedals, this one is based on the RAT2. With clone pedals they don't try to exactly replicate but work their own vibe into them. might be worth checking out.

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Dec 18 2018, 05:50 PM
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Cool pedal and definitely worth checking out.
But it doesn't sound like a Rat 2 (smallbox model ProCo Rat from the late 80s). It's way more fuzzy. Where they get the R2 ref? - I don't know. They even mention that the op amps are different. The one in a Rat 2 is very specific - the LM308.
On a Rat pedal (all Rat pedals) Even with the 'Filter' turned mostly clockwise to cut the high end and the gain/distortion up past 1:00, a Rat is more cutting and bright. *If you boost the front end of a Rat you can get a fuzzier tone out of it.
Here's the classic Rat 2 tone ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OqIo6BNTjE

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Dec 18 2018, 04:50 PM) *
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I also felt that but also suspect it might have a lot to do with the amp.

When I tested my Glove at the store I remember it sounding very fuzzy and even the store guy said its very much like a fuzz pedal (not knowing its and ocd clone). I got home and since I used it with a processor, dialed some tones from amps and most of that fuzzy character went away depending on the setting.

But there's a good chance maybe on diagram its very much like a rat2 but with very simple changes could sound like totally something else, we'll see. Probably in a few days more vid.s will surface to give a better idea.

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Interesting. Thanks for finding that vid.
Definitely different pedals. Both sound really good. They would be a nice compliment to each other in a two guitar band and/or for doubling fat rhythm parts.
The Flatiron sounds less fuzzy in that clip probably due to the use of a stock Strat.

*That amp he's using - the Carr Rambler - is essentially a (50s) Fender tweed Deluxe. Fantastic amps and still one of the most popular boutique combo amps being made and sold here in the US. Pushed past 10:00 - any drive pedal sounds great.

**The big box, late 90s Rat sounded the coolest to me overall.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 8 2019, 03:01 PM) *
Interesting. Thanks for finding that vid.
Definitely different pedals. Both sound really good. They would be a nice compliment to each other in a two guitar band and/or for doubling fat rhythm parts.
The Flatiron sounds less fuzzy in that clip probably due to the use of a stock Strat.

*That amp he's using - the Carr Rambler - is essentially a (50s) Fender tweed Deluxe. Fantastic amps and still one of the most popular boutique combo amps being made and sold here in the US. Pushed past 10:00 - any drive pedal sounds great.

**The big box, late 90s Rat sounded the coolest to me overall.


I was going to ask about that Carr as its not sold where I live, thanks for that smile.gif

I suspect that amp is eq'd favoring the EHX which might be something to keep in mind. But what I felt was the RAT might be better for louder humbuckers as the lower notes were more toward distortion while EHX gave hints of fuzz. So lower output guitar owners might want to check the EHX as an alternative.

I felt like I could set it up to be both as boost for shred (on lead amp channel) and as a cool mid-gain dist. on the clean channel of the amp, leaving an airy clean tone when pedal is off. My Glove OD is best on the OD side of things (can get fuzzy if cranked) so it might compliment well, their tone-knob filter might be identical.

It takes a bit time for EHX stuff to arrive here but I'll save some cash just incase I like it too when trying at the store smile.gif

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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jan 8 2019, 08:26 AM) *
I felt like I could set it up to be both as boost for shred (on lead amp channel) and as a cool mid-gain dist. on the clean channel of the amp, leaving an airy clean tone when pedal is off. My Glove OD is best on the OD side of things (can get fuzzy if cranked) so it might compliment well, their tone-knob filter might be identical.

It takes a bit time for EHX stuff to arrive here but I'll save some cash just in case I like it too when trying at the store smile.gif


The Pro Co 'Rat' was originally designed (1978) to be used in front of a cranked, non-master volume Marshall (or other similarly voiced British amps) for either more gain or a lead boost with more saturation. It tightens up (slightly cuts) the low end and can, by using the filter control, add some high mids (vintage Marshalls can get dark when turned way up). A good Rat pedal is a glorious thing into a loud Marshall.

*The Carr Rambler is one of the most awesome amps I've ever had the pleasure to play through. I was sharing a rock and roll Christmas gig last month with another guitar player and we both used his Rambler (on different nights). Without a doubt, the coolest back line I've ever experienced.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 8 2019, 04:04 PM) *
A good Rat pedal is a glorious thing into a loud Marshall.

that was my setup back in the mid 90s when I played in a band. Les Paul > Rat > Marshall half stack. No messing about just straight to the point........ and that point was badassery smile.gif

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QUOTE (bleez @ Jan 8 2019, 11:10 AM) *
that was my setup back in the mid 90s when I played in a band. Les Paul > Rat > Marshall half stack. No messing about just straight to the point........ and that point was badassery smile.gif


That's pretty much what all the boutique pedal and amp makers are going for when they design their "hard rock" offerings.

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