Right Hand Speed Picking Technique Developement |
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Right Hand Speed Picking Technique Developement |
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Feb 21 2023, 05:40 AM
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Hi Kris,
I need some mentoring in developing / correcting my right hand tecnique for speed picking. First let me give you the context. please watch this small clip from someone's cover of master of puppets solo right hand technique demo in master of puppets cover clip The tablature for this portion is here In the video you can see there are two types of right hand picking techniques that she is using. the first part where she uses her wrists movements. and second part where she keeps her wrist frozen straight and the movement is done with the forearm. the technique in first part is how i usually play. i.e i alway use my wrist movements to alternate pick. Now I am not sure, but I believe the technique in later part is used to generate fast speed when not changing strings frequently. I want to learn this second technique. because i have been working on this lesson darius alternate picking lesson and have been struggling with high speed 16th notes picking in the lesson. I think learning this new technique will help me pick faster. Can you train me to pick like that because I have been playing in a certain way for so long that learning to play this way seems difficult on my own. thanks, sumit This post has been edited by sumitnxt: Feb 21 2023, 05:41 AM |
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Feb 21 2023, 12:47 PM |
Hey Sumit,
Great to hear from you - and this is a really cool request! You have made all the correct observations here, this guitarist uses two different types of picking. One that is highly controlled but not very fast. The other one is the exact opposite, and it's called tremolo picking. I the first video here I give a brief explanation of it: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/tremolo/ In order for you to get working on this right away, I would like to ask you to record a video where you play on one string only. When you do so, try to lock your whole forearm so that neither wrist nor thumb joint is moving. So to clarify: your picking movement should be generated by your elbow (and a little bit of shoulder). Your wrist should be totally stiff. When doing this, you might also want to experiment with your pick crossing angle - to achieve as effortless picking as possible. |
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Feb 21 2023, 02:13 PM
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Thanks for taking my request.
Here is a quick video i have recorded. I have zero experience with picking this way. it feels really strange while i am playing like this. I am so much focussed on the right hand movements that I cannot do any left hand fret changes at the moment. Let me know if this video shows what you need to see to help me or should I record another video ? Hey Sumit, Great to hear from you - and this is a really cool request! You have made all the correct observations here, this guitarist uses two different types of picking. One that is highly controlled but not very fast. The other one is the exact opposite, and it's called tremolo picking. I the first video here I give a brief explanation of it: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/tremolo/ In order for you to get working on this right away, I would like to ask you to record a video where you play on one string only. When you do so, try to lock your whole forearm so that neither wrist nor thumb joint is moving. So to clarify: your picking movement should be generated by your elbow (and a little bit of shoulder). Your wrist should be totally stiff. When doing this, you might also want to experiment with your pick crossing angle - to achieve as effortless picking as possible. |
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Feb 22 2023, 10:03 AM |
Here I have made some clarifications via video for you:
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Feb 23 2023, 04:23 PM
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Hi Kirstofer , thanks for this really. The tips in this video are very helpful.
I am practicing and it appears i am making progress. soon I post another video asking for more feedback. However I do have a doubt. This is from your quote regarding tremolo picking QUOTE I the first video here I give a brief explanation of it: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/tremolo/ you are mentioning that the art of alternate picking is controlled picking and developing speed with controlled picking. whereas tremolo picking is only about speed. So here is my doubt. My doubt is that even tremolo picking requires control . My thinking is that when left hand is making fret changes like in this video i shared before clip from master of puppets cover if the player did not had control while tremolo picking she would have not be able to pick the exact number of times each note has to be picked while her left hand is making the fret changes. and perhaps if a note is played a few extra times that would make the solo choppy. the reason I am asking for this clarification is because this would effect my practice strategy for tremolo picking. I am concerned that if i practice tremolo picking with developing speed in mind without developing control , will i be able to play that master of puppets part , when i have developed the speed ? Here I have made some clarifications via video for you: |
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Mar 6 2023, 02:24 PM |
Cool, as mentioned I think this is sounding better and better!
The issue here is that you are not in control of string crossing, so whenever there is tricky string crossing happening - we can hear a slight gap or interruption. There is no way you can fix this without getting into more advanced speed picking - this is why the only tremolo picking that can sound decent is done on one string only. Unfortunately there is no quick way to master speedpicking - instead I would recommend the following lessons which will deep dive into the advice I have given you regarding slow, controlled practicing: 1 - https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Lead-B...sing/?part=main 2 - https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Speed-...ding/?part=main 3 - https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Altern...sics/?part=main And here is some Paul Gilbert Goodness 😎 |
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Mar 7 2023, 02:29 PM
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( there might be some bug . I lost this post while editing it. the whole post blanked after submitting, so writing again )
Hi Kris, I am certainly interested in improving speed picking at a deeper level as you mentioned. can i request to work some more on tremolo picking before moving on to other speed picking techniques . I am requesting this because I feel some overall improvement in my playing since i have beend developing arm movements due to practicing tremolo picking. I feel it will help me get better at shredding somehow. Can you guide my progress as i practice these tremolo excercises. these don't involve string crossing movements. I have found these 3 excercises excercise 1 sounds like this download from dropbox excercise 2 sounds like this download from dropbox excercise 3 sounds like this download from dropbox Edit After Practicing Excercise 1 So I have been practicing the excercise 1 above and here is my take for feedback. thanks, sumit This post has been edited by sumitnxt: Mar 9 2023, 08:40 AM |
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Mar 9 2023, 09:51 AM |
Great examples Sumit - here I break things down to clarify controlled picking vs tremolo and give you some examples:
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Mar 14 2023, 02:56 PM |
Cool Sumit,
Looking at this from a strict "tremolo picking" perspective I think it's ok. But as I have mentioned, there is major arm movement involved here and this is not a sustainable way to practice. I would advise you as soon as possible get rid of any visible arm movement, and please take my warning seriously to not practice while you are tensed for any sustained period of time. Also there is 'unevenness' in the beginning and end of your playing here, which is to be expected when you push speed. This is generally a "no no" since there is a risk you make these mistakes part of your style, though as mentioned tremolo picking is not really a controlled technique and I guess this is to be expected. I have seen you have posted a great video here (and already got some great feedback). This is much more in line with what I would recommend you practice. Keep it up mate 👊 QUOTE ( there might be some bug . I lost this post while editing it. the whole post blanked after submitting, so writing again ) Ouch! Was there some kind of security / browser check in between (right before you lost it?) |
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