A G/mc Collab!, Fiercesome adrenaline pumping through your veins to the sound of ROCK
Kristofer Dahl
Jan 16 2015, 11:30 AM
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Are you prepared to rock?
Can you handle fiercesome adrenaline pumping through your veins to the sound of raw, unadulterated, beat knocking rock?
If not - get outta here fast. Because it is time to rock - hard, heavy and steady.

When Young is getting old you know the world is upside down, and the only thing we can do about it - IS TO ROCK.

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‘Nuff said, now just feel the groove:
Attached File  ACDC_backing_final.mp3 ( 1.53MB ) Number of downloads: 740



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* You guessed it - we’re doing another audio collab to follow up on the last one.
* Deadline is 2015-02-05. Lots of time to polish your take, and we’ll do our outmost to help you out along the way.
* This is a workshop where you will understand how to make music, not just practice. So by participating here you will reach insights not possible to get elsewhere on the site.
* Post your take in this topic
* For your final version, upload files in this topic (mp3 with at least 128 kbps quality, 16 bit wav files are welcome though). We need two files: 1. Your solo without the backing track 2. Your solo mixed with the backing track for reference


Gab recorded this amazing sounding AC/DC style track in 120 bpm. You can use the A minor pentatonic scale to play over it:



VERSE
A5 | D5 G | (x4)

BRIDGE
E | E |

CHORUS
A5 G | D5 G | (x4)

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RESULT - DOWNLOAD THE FINAL VERSION!

Order of Appearance:

Gabriel Leopardi (Rhythm guitar & intro phrase)
SubbedCris (Lead guitar)
Phil66 (Lead guitar) + Dieterle (Rhythmic delay arrangement)
Beat Zbinden (Lead guitar and Kirk Hammet’s Wah Wah auto pan)
Lothomer (Lead guitar)
Sensible Jones (Lead guitar)
Rhida (Lead guitar)
Caelumamittendum (Lead guitar)
SpaaseMonkey (Lead guitar)
GeneT95 (Lead guitar)
Vinman (Lead guitar)
Procyon (Lead guitar)
Bleez + Nick6373 (Guitar battle)
Kristofel Dahl (Lead guitar)

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GeneT95
Jan 27 2015, 11:34 PM
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Well its been a while. Starting to play with a purpose again after a fair long time. Here is my take. I got a bit lazy figuring out how to get a good take in my DAW and never got up to fetch a pick. I didn't like some parts of a mediocre tone...... And somehow, after I listened to it, I comped a likeness to an original line. Not really intended. Musta been in my subconscious as I tried call up some Angus spirit.

With Backing
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/acdc1-gt2/s-4toXX

And without
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/acdc1-gtraw2/s-jsVin

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Kristofer Dahl
Jan 28 2015, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (GeneT95 @ Jan 27 2015, 11:34 PM) *
Well its been a while. Starting to play with a purpose again after a fair long time. Here is my take. I got a bit lazy figuring out how to get a good take in my DAW and never got up to fetch a pick. I didn't like some parts of a mediocre tone...... And somehow, after I listened to it, I comped a likeness to an original line. Not really intended. Musta been in my subconscious as I tried call up some Angus spirit.

With Backing
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/acdc1-gt2/s-4toXX

And without
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/acdc1-gtraw2/s-jsVin


Hey Gene - awesome to have you in!! biggrin.gif

This is a cool take with a musical structure, you also have some interesting phrasing going on (particularly in the beginning). Some comments:

* The beginning (and ending) is always super important - and the very first note you play is off timing wise, you play it slightly too late. This can be ok if done purposely, but your note is too close to the beat to be perceived as played there on purpose.

* Your timing is better in the first part, than in the chorus (starting at 00:19) - this might be because your chorus lead is played faster and therefor requires more practicing. This is a general comment for the whole second part - and since you nail the first section I would assume all you need is more practicing time.

Your tone sounds fine to me, though possible tweaks could be:

* This tone is pretty "warm" (without too much treble/top end) - I personally love this kind of sound but it can have problems 'cutting through' when there are treblish rhythm guitars in the mix. So what usually happens is that we try to compensate for this by turning the volume of the guitar lead up, and this usually ruins the mix and general impression. So the general rule is for treblish (rock/metal) backings, we also need to treblish lead tone.

This backing track does not have an extreme amount of top end, but still enough. I want to clarify that as long a student takes are somewhat in the ballbark (which you are), then EQ problems can be fixed in the mix easily.

For those wondering - treblish = lots of treble. Did I just make up a word? ph34r.gif

* Try adding more gain and see if you like it, it can give a smoother flow to the faster passages.

All in all - very well done and great to have you on board! Please let me know if this makes sense (perhaps I got a bit technical with all the 'treble' talk?)

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GeneT95
Jan 28 2015, 04:43 PM
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Hey Kris, Thanks for the comments.

Yeah I missed the first beat. I think I short tracked it......meaning I didn't let the backing track start from the very beginning and probably got caught. I did, though, play off the first beat in the ending, near 0.32. I think somewhere 'around' the snare, ?second beat. In any case, although I thought it gave a somewhat slowing/retarding sound into the finish, it was forced and didn't turn out as well as I would like. I need some practice in my DAW, so I'll probably practice some punch in/out recording and overdub that section with some different 'feels' and structure change, but I wanted to submit a one shot take rather than carving out what I didn't like.

As far as the tone, I'm in transition with gear, so I pretty much recorded a cleanish guitar into the DAW and used a free distortion plugin. Honestly, it was awful. The high end alone was enough to cause seizures. So, using the free amp tonestack, I pushed the mids and dropped some bass and treble then added them back in with a 8 band eq plugin positioned after the distortion plugin. I couldn't add more gain even though I knew the notes did not have a more(better) fluid nature. More gain with my setup was definitely undesirable. So I added a smidge of delay (75msec at about 15%) and even less reverb at 7% with a somewhat small room setting.

As far as cutting, I did (although not sure if that is allowed) increase the volume of the backing track slightly in the second part, having it rise and impart more energy into the section with the solo. And I thought the cymbals/snare and perhaps the rhythm guitar was fairly bright, so instead of adding to it with a brighter solo, I tried to give the solo guitar its own place in the mix with a higher midrange tone. That and too much treble via headphones starts to make my brain bleed after a while.

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- Kristofer Dahl   A G/mc Collab!   Jan 16 2015, 11:30 AM
- - MrUK   Hell yeah! That´s one style that I like ...   Jan 16 2015, 12:19 PM
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- - Dieterle   OK here i am, the OLDY gives it a try and hopeful...   Jan 16 2015, 12:44 PM
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- - Rhida   Great band, great music so obviously it will be a ...   Jan 16 2015, 01:44 PM
- - SubbedChris   Cool backing track and collab! My take ----...   Jan 16 2015, 02:10 PM
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|- - SubbedChris   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 16 2015, 01:3...   Jan 16 2015, 02:39 PM
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- - MrUK   I think I need to practice like a demon here on GM...   Jan 16 2015, 02:49 PM
- - MisterM   Hi Excuse my bad english, I'm french, I use t...   Jan 16 2015, 03:53 PM
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- - Beat Zbinden   I'm in¨ Let's rock!!!   Jan 16 2015, 04:27 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Beat Zbinden @ Jan 16 2015, 04:27 ...   Jan 16 2015, 04:31 PM
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- - Vinman56   Dont really know how i should record this. all i ...   Jan 17 2015, 12:07 AM
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- - Procyon   Oh yeah - this sounds great! If I hopefully ma...   Jan 17 2015, 11:47 AM
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- - Nick6373   Thanks so much for the advice guys! I'm g...   Jan 17 2015, 09:13 PM
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- - Dieterle   OK here NUMBER TWO record a bit different . I r...   Jan 17 2015, 09:18 PM
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- - Dieterle   Hey Kris sure i do more records ! This evenin...   Jan 18 2015, 10:53 AM
- - Gill   great collab, i'll give it a shot.   Jan 18 2015, 11:08 AM
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