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Why Do I Hate Jazz?
SirJamsalot
Mar 27 2014, 07:40 PM
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I really haven't found anything in the Jazz world I like. in fact, almost all of it sounds like a cat in heat to me. It must be the lack of bends and constant hitting of wrong notes. Don't take it personally if you play jazz. Technically, it's amazing and I admire the heck out of anyone who can triad their way through life - but sonic ally, it gives me dry heaves.

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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Mar 27 2014, 06:40 PM) *
I really haven't found anything in the Jazz world I like. in fact, almost all of it sounds like a cat in heat to me. It must be the lack of bends and constant hitting of wrong notes. Don't take it personally if you play jazz. Technically, it's amazing and I admire the heck out of anyone who can triad their way through life - but sonic ally, it gives me dry heaves.

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I agree, I've tried time and time again to get into jazz. The fact of the matter for me is i don't enjoy music that changes its central tonality too frequently. Like a song that just keeps modulating over and over. But learning some jazzy chords isn't a bad thing. I enjoy jazzy sounding songs. Usually softer type stuff, with lots of man/minor 7 chords ect. But a tune that utilizes jazzy chords, without using a ton of substitutions, and modulations, is very pleasing to my ear holes

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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Mar 27 2014, 06:40 PM) *
I really haven't found anything in the Jazz world I like. in fact, almost all of it sounds like a cat in heat to me. It must be the lack of bends and constant hitting of wrong notes. Don't take it personally if you play jazz. Technically, it's amazing and I admire the heck out of anyone who can triad their way through life - but sonic ally, it gives me dry heaves.

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Ha I was like you for years and years. I certainly still hate soft jazz and too much horny jazz (jazz with only horns) drives me up a wall. I like swinging jazz or something like this:

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Well, this should answer your question :-D

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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Mar 27 2014, 07:40 PM) *
I really haven't found anything in the Jazz world I like. in fact, almost all of it sounds like a cat in heat to me. It must be the lack of bends and constant hitting of wrong notes. Don't take it personally if you play jazz. Technically, it's amazing and I admire the heck out of anyone who can triad their way through life - but sonic ally, it gives me dry heaves.

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There's lots of jazz out there. Have you tried listening to more fusion stuff? Probably a cliché reply, but "try and listen to these songs":



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Mar 27 2014, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Mar 27 2014, 06:40 PM) *
lack of bends and constant hitting of wrong notes.

OMG! IM A JAZZ GUITARIST.... HELP!! ohmy.gif


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QUOTE (bleez @ Mar 27 2014, 08:39 PM) *
OMG! IM A JAZZ GUITARIST.... HELP!! ohmy.gif


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Just killed me with this one biggrin.gif Good joke Bleez biggrin.gif


To be honest I rather about to keep respect in distance for playing I don't like. Usually it's about a private taste or just a lack of understanding for particular genre smile.gif Jazz has a lot of different sides. Try to play only wrong notes and believe me...any jazz player will detect a noob biggrin.gif

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The school I graduated was jazz oriented and guess what, I also (in general) dislike jazz smile.gif

Funny thing is I like complexity on tonal and even atonal music and I'm almost too used to it (it can be a curse sometimes @Darius biggrin.gif) listening or composing. So to be honest, I don't believe its only about having an educated ear to understand or feel it...

If I had to explain myself; I always felt an emotional stillness throughout the music. Its not about groove, harmony etc. which are usually simply explainable. It "moves" thats for sure but while one angle of the universe is almost endless, another is very narrow forcing me to absorb the music in a historically strict perspective.

To keep things unpoetic; I feel like an almost bored to death musician playing on a bar stage when I listen jazz biggrin.gif

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Maybe start with these(?)
Technically, as far as the chords go, they're more 'jazz' than rock. Definitely aggressive though and what I would call a gateway drug (to jazz).







Ultimately, there's no rule that says you 'have' to like jazz.

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lol. love the responses. cool.gif

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Mar 28 2014, 02:03 AM
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I can't answer that question without being repugnant. I love, love, jazz. Especially fusion jazz. Honestly from my own personal opinion. It's the only really new sound that isn't a small variation of something else.Just my opinion smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

QUOTE (Mertay @ Mar 27 2014, 01:42 PM) *
The school I graduated was jazz oriented and guess what, I also (in general) dislike jazz smile.gif

Funny thing is I like complexity on tonal and even atonal music and I'm almost too used to it (it can be a curse sometimes @Darius biggrin.gif) listening or composing. So to be honest, I don't believe its only about having an educated ear to understand or feel it...

If I had to explain myself; I always felt an emotional stillness throughout the music. Its not about groove, harmony etc. which are usually simply explainable. It "moves" thats for sure but while one angle of the universe is almost endless, another is very narrow forcing me to absorb the music in a historically strict perspective.

To keep things unpoetic; I feel like an almost bored to death musician playing on a bar stage when I listen jazz biggrin.gif

That actually makes tons of sense. I come from an unprofessional classical guitar background which I've probably heard most pieces; but to me fusion jazz is everything you explained in the second paragraph. New and unique. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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It's perfectly fine to not like jazz... Even "hate" it, if that's the way you want to express it...

But...

Saying you hate jazz is like saying you hate italian food, or comedy movies, or... Even if 99% of them are not to your liking, I'll bet there's something out there you would enjoy and appreciate...

I guess what I'm saying is that there's good jazz, bad jazz, and ok, but not especially memorable jazz...

Just like you could say the same thing about rock, pop, metal, blues, country, rap, etc., etc...

No single song or artist defines a genre, and hopefully you will keep open ears and an open heart, and not try to put a label on something, and just enjoy it for the pleasure of the music and the performance!

Good luck on your journey!

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QUOTE (Hexabuzz @ Mar 28 2014, 02:04 AM) *
But...

Saying you hate jazz is like saying you hate italian food, or comedy movies, or... Even if 99% of them are not to your liking, I'll bet there's something out there you would enjoy and appreciate...


Wise words. Give him a beer biggrin.gif


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I'm picky about the jazz I like but Ted Greene's playing and knowledge etc made me love chord melody.

The harmony is amazing

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I find jazz a very very wide genre with lots of audio colours, experimenting, and original (talented) musicians. There is plenty you can hate, dislike, like and love in that soup. ^^

"Metal" jazz:


"Electronic" jazz:


For the more "ordinary" stuff, I think these are nice albums:
Diana Krall - "All for You"
Dave Holland - "Prism"
Marilyn Mazur - "Future Song"
Marius Neset - "Golden Xplosion"

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Jazz it not a style for my taste at all. But I have a particular respect for all jazz players. They can understand things from musical theory that I even not try to understand.
When a music not tell me anything I prefer to avoid the style. But are some melodies from jazz that I like very much and time to time I comeback and listen them. This is two of my favorites smile.gif





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Jazz fusion is what I imagine going around the head of a serial killer. All that dissonance and weird lift music.


Of course, I'm joking.... but only half joking wink.gif


I can admire a lot of jazz / fusion / progressive for its musicianship but I wouldn't listen for its melody or emotional content, not that I've ever been able to discern any.

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I'm not really a big shred or metal fan to be honest...but some of the shred and metal I have heard is amazing. I love rock and blues...but I don't love all rock and blues. Jazz...some of it bores me....some of it excites me. I suppose anyone who decides to box everything in life will let the boxes decide what they like and what they don't. Me... I like to look inside all the boxes and see for myself.

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QUOTE (Guido Bungenstock @ Mar 27 2014, 04:05 PM) *
Well, this should answer your question :-D
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