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Coram Deo
Jan 30 2008, 10:29 PM
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I am as much to blame as the next guy, but I just realized that of all the "in the style of" lessons we don't have a Jimmy Page lesson. This should be fixed ASAP, and if I was good enough I would do it but since I suck I'll leave it up to one of our instuctors. This is a very serious issue, we don't want to upset the rock gods and put a jinx on the whole thing! ;-) ALL HAIL LED ZEPPLIN!!

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Jan 31 2008, 05:02 AM
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My two cents.

It's all in timeframe. For the era, he was great. Just a different style. To be quite honest, I liked LZ, but they were never my favorite from that era. Page is famous for playing his guitar with a cello bow, as on the songs "Dazed and Confused", "How Many More Times", "Kashmir", and in the interlude of "In the Evening". How different is that, I would say that's a matter of style.

He did recruit JB, and RP back when the band was called the Yardbirds. If I'm not mistaken, JPJ actually contacted him to join the band.

So yes, IMO, I would consider him great! biggrin.gif

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Ouch,my post made some real turbulence huh.gif

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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 06:45 AM) *
Ouch,my post made some real turbulence huh.gif

No worries Muris, that's a good thing. Makes people think biggrin.gif
Of course I disagree with you though.

If you are saying that it's the solos that defines a guitarist then in my opinion you are wrong. Listening to solos that's not really part of the song (showing off) is just as exciting as looking at how excellent someone can handle a toothbrush.

One of the things that make Page great is that he does the job, he completes Zeppelin and makes it what it is. He's not overdoing it (well, except for some far out solo's, which where exactly right at the time). Just like Gilmour it's exactly the right amount of noise or silence at exactly the right time. Lot's of variations when he repeats a riff or a verse.
In Zeppelin he played this way because that was the right way. In Yardbirds the sound was completly different, and the right thing there. In my opinion Page where outstanding from all the guitarists at the same time.

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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Feb 1 2008, 11:08 PM) *
No worries Muris, that's a good thing. Makes people think biggrin.gif
Of course I disagree with you though.

If you are saying that it's the solos that defines a guitarist then in my opinion you are wrong. Listening to solos that's not really part of the song (showing off) is just as exciting as looking at how excellent someone can handle a toothbrush.


Of course I didn't say that!!!
I sad his solo playing isn't that unique for my taste and view,
like per example Knopfler,Jeff Beck,Blackmore,Hendrix etc ,
these guys have their own VEERY powerful trademark,
even today which is quite amazing,you try to copy them a bit and it'd be sooo obvious.
I putted more light on his solo parts cause most the In Style Lessons here are solo stuff,correct me if I'm wrong.
And finally,we are ALL aware of the fact that soloing is just a small piece of being guitarist,musician generally.
Composing,innovations,generation leader, I would say those are major parts of Page's greatness! smile.gif

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All great guitarists must be seen in the context of their era.

Is a model model T ford a good car by todays standards? No, but it was the most popular car of its era.

Just because the craft of guitar playing has moved on and is today judged by different technical standards, does not invalidate the contributions of earlier players. Jimmy Page is not a Vai or Pettrucci, but in his day he was the equivalent - a dude who was breaking the rules and playing stuff the like of which noone had ever heard before - that has to count for something.

To say nothing of the technique versus musical feel argument - older guitarists like page played slower, less notes, but perhaps they were closer to the music as a result. I realize that this comment may be contravrsial as we all have different opinions, but I am trying to make the point that faster and more modern techniques are not necessarily better, because at the end of it all, the judgement of music is in how it makes us as listeners feel, not hom many notes we play, or how flawlessly we play them.

For that reaosn, I see players like Page, Clapton & Hendrix to be just as deserving of the guitar god label now as they were in their time, modern developments not withstanding, but at the same time you have to give props to the newer guys for taking the art to an entirely new and unbelievable level - its all part of the same thing whichever way you cut it.

Ok, I'm done ...

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- Coram Deo   Urgent Message   Jan 30 2008, 10:29 PM
- - SteveBeer   Agreed. His style has influenced at least one of ...   Jan 30 2008, 10:35 PM
- - Hisham   maybe you have right   Jan 30 2008, 10:40 PM
|- - Muris   To be honest,I never felt Page as "unique...   Jan 31 2008, 01:53 AM
|- - OrganisedConfusion   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 12:53 AM) To ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:03 AM
|- - fkalich   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 30 2008, 06:53 PM) To ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:06 AM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (fkalich @ Jan 31 2008, 02:06 AM) S...   Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM
|- - Muris   And thread dies Page is really a Legend,has in...   Jan 31 2008, 02:50 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM) May...   Jan 31 2008, 09:34 AM
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- - JukeboxHero   I have always thought of Jimmy Page as a great gui...   Jan 31 2008, 02:12 AM
- - ace_frehely   I agree..Jimmy Page is the best..he plays one of t...   Jan 31 2008, 03:07 AM
- - Tjchep   I agree with muris, hes had good riffs and comps, ...   Jan 31 2008, 03:12 AM
- - SLASH91   I agree with Muris; but we must remember that he w...   Jan 31 2008, 03:22 AM
- - UncleSkillet   This is a little disturbing to me and I’m not su...   Jan 31 2008, 03:59 AM
- - Tjchep   He was totally revolutionary, but his style is ove...   Jan 31 2008, 04:10 AM
- - wylde guitar   i forget where but the other day i saw a list of t...   Jan 31 2008, 04:13 AM
- - Robwylde   Muris hit on something I guess I didn't consid...   Jan 31 2008, 04:31 AM
- - fatb0t   Well, if you think back to his era - growing strai...   Jan 31 2008, 04:42 AM
|- - Muris   Ouch,my post made some real turbulence   Jan 31 2008, 06:45 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 2 2008, 01:53 AM) Of c...   Feb 3 2008, 02:30 PM
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- - Juan M. Valero   Oh, poor Muris, hehe, he only have explain his own...   Jan 31 2008, 08:44 AM
- - Mackietao   As far as personal opinions goes is very hard to ...   Jan 31 2008, 10:34 AM
- - mattacuk   Well you know . In all honesty Jimmy Page as a gui...   Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM) ...   Jan 31 2008, 11:23 AM
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- - Tomotoms   I love Led Zeppelin. Jimmy might not have the ama...   Jan 31 2008, 11:18 AM
- - Kristofer Dahl   Agreed - we need a Page lesson urgently! T...   Jan 31 2008, 01:50 PM
- - Coram Deo   MAN!! Did not think this post would get t...   Jan 31 2008, 06:05 PM
- - rokchik   QUOTE (Coram Deo @ Jan 30 2008, 05:29 PM)...   Feb 1 2008, 12:29 AM
- - Nick334   I think Gab is the man for the job   Feb 1 2008, 07:39 PM
- - wylde guitar   I have no idea why it took this long for someone t...   Feb 1 2008, 10:32 PM
- - JVM   Yes... a Page lesson is the most needed in the sty...   Feb 1 2008, 11:26 PM
- - inertia   I'm a bit surprised that some people don't...   Feb 3 2008, 01:47 AM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (inertia @ Feb 3 2008, 01:47 AM) I...   Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM
|- - inertia   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 2 2008, 07:58 PM) And ...   Feb 3 2008, 04:09 PM
|- - jacmoe   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM) And ...   Feb 4 2008, 09:46 PM
|- - OrganisedConfusion   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 4 2008, 08:46 PM) If ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:05 PM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 4 2008, 09:46 PM) Mur...   Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM
|- - jacmoe   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM) I wa...   Feb 7 2008, 09:15 PM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 7 2008, 09:15 PM) Sor...   Feb 7 2008, 11:49 PM
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- - shellshock1911   Page took a new view of rhythm guitar and thus mad...   Feb 3 2008, 02:06 AM
- - OrganisedConfusion   I will forever dislike Led Zeppelin as I think Dee...   Feb 3 2008, 02:28 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 3 2008, 02...   Feb 3 2008, 02:28 PM
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- - Robwylde   Every guitarist has an opinion about every guitari...   Feb 3 2008, 02:36 AM
- - Gerardo Siere   I agree with muris Page´s uniques are about the s...   Feb 4 2008, 12:06 AM
- - Slammer   Well, Jimmy Page used to be my favorite-well tied ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:28 PM
- - Gus   As polemic as the topic turned to be I have to sta...   Feb 5 2008, 12:57 AM
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