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Coram Deo
Jan 30 2008, 10:29 PM
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I am as much to blame as the next guy, but I just realized that of all the "in the style of" lessons we don't have a Jimmy Page lesson. This should be fixed ASAP, and if I was good enough I would do it but since I suck I'll leave it up to one of our instuctors. This is a very serious issue, we don't want to upset the rock gods and put a jinx on the whole thing! ;-) ALL HAIL LED ZEPPLIN!!

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Gus
Feb 5 2008, 12:57 AM
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As polemic as the topic turned to be I have to start by saying that I fully agree that a Jimmy Page style lesson is urgent wink.gif . However, that will be quite a hard job, as I try to explain below.

As always, we can only talk about our favorite guitarists, not about best guitarists. Some people think that the best is the most famous, other people think is the most technical, or the most impressive. I just put them there for what my ears like (something that actually can change during time). So in the end, we can't really use the word best when we should just say favorite.
In fact Jimmy Page is #1 in my favorite guitarist list. Still I understand what Muris tried to say. Take Mark Knopfler for example. If someone sing a verse and then try to complement that with some lick played with 3 fingers and it will be hard to say he is not being imitated.
So I think it is way easier to capture the signature of Mark Knopfler and turn that into a style lesson than doing the same with Jimmy Page. Stating that does not make MK better than JP nor vice versa.

What makes a JP style? Pentatonic scales? Using alternative tunings in acoustic records? Mandolin solos? Using a bow in a guitar? Maybe it is versatility that makes it hard to define his style. We probably need a bunch of JP lessons, each of them just analyzing one aspect.

Another thing that is amazing is the way he blended with the rest of Led.
Look at Lemon song. That is probably more well known for being one of the best bass grooves ever. But think about the vocals. 0.01% of the human population may ever dream of singing like that (women included). All of that with such cool drums and rhythmic variations. Now listen to the guitar. Oh here is another cool riff. And then, OMG, the guitar is crying. Now it is speaking. Now it echoes Plant's voice. And squeezing a lemonade... Well, just listen to it with open mind.
Another example of ultra creative stuff. Look at D'yer Mak'er. Who would figure out to play reggae in that way?


P.S. I guess also that JP proved my theory that playing les pauls for many years will make your shoulders unequal ( I love the sound but, did it need to be that heavy?) tongue.gif

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- Coram Deo   Urgent Message   Jan 30 2008, 10:29 PM
- - SteveBeer   Agreed. His style has influenced at least one of ...   Jan 30 2008, 10:35 PM
- - Hisham   maybe you have right   Jan 30 2008, 10:40 PM
|- - Muris   To be honest,I never felt Page as "unique...   Jan 31 2008, 01:53 AM
|- - OrganisedConfusion   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 12:53 AM) To ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:03 AM
|- - fkalich   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 30 2008, 06:53 PM) To ...   Jan 31 2008, 02:06 AM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (fkalich @ Jan 31 2008, 02:06 AM) S...   Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM
|- - Muris   And thread dies Page is really a Legend,has in...   Jan 31 2008, 02:50 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM) May...   Jan 31 2008, 09:34 AM
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- - JukeboxHero   I have always thought of Jimmy Page as a great gui...   Jan 31 2008, 02:12 AM
- - ace_frehely   I agree..Jimmy Page is the best..he plays one of t...   Jan 31 2008, 03:07 AM
- - Tjchep   I agree with muris, hes had good riffs and comps, ...   Jan 31 2008, 03:12 AM
- - SLASH91   I agree with Muris; but we must remember that he w...   Jan 31 2008, 03:22 AM
- - UncleSkillet   This is a little disturbing to me and I’m not su...   Jan 31 2008, 03:59 AM
- - Tjchep   He was totally revolutionary, but his style is ove...   Jan 31 2008, 04:10 AM
- - wylde guitar   i forget where but the other day i saw a list of t...   Jan 31 2008, 04:13 AM
- - Robwylde   Muris hit on something I guess I didn't consid...   Jan 31 2008, 04:31 AM
- - fatb0t   Well, if you think back to his era - growing strai...   Jan 31 2008, 04:42 AM
- - skennington   My two cents. It's all in timeframe. For the ...   Jan 31 2008, 05:02 AM
|- - Muris   Ouch,my post made some real turbulence   Jan 31 2008, 06:45 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 31 2008, 06:45 AM) Ouc...   Feb 1 2008, 11:08 PM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (blindwillie @ Feb 1 2008, 11:08 PM...   Feb 2 2008, 01:53 AM
|- - Andrew Cockburn   All great guitarists must be seen in the context o...   Feb 2 2008, 03:12 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 2 2008, 01:53 AM) Of c...   Feb 3 2008, 02:30 PM
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- - Juan M. Valero   Oh, poor Muris, hehe, he only have explain his own...   Jan 31 2008, 08:44 AM
- - Mackietao   As far as personal opinions goes is very hard to ...   Jan 31 2008, 10:34 AM
- - mattacuk   Well you know . In all honesty Jimmy Page as a gui...   Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 31 2008, 11:12 AM) ...   Jan 31 2008, 11:23 AM
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- - Tomotoms   I love Led Zeppelin. Jimmy might not have the ama...   Jan 31 2008, 11:18 AM
- - Kristofer Dahl   Agreed - we need a Page lesson urgently! T...   Jan 31 2008, 01:50 PM
- - Coram Deo   MAN!! Did not think this post would get t...   Jan 31 2008, 06:05 PM
- - rokchik   QUOTE (Coram Deo @ Jan 30 2008, 05:29 PM)...   Feb 1 2008, 12:29 AM
- - Nick334   I think Gab is the man for the job   Feb 1 2008, 07:39 PM
- - wylde guitar   I have no idea why it took this long for someone t...   Feb 1 2008, 10:32 PM
- - JVM   Yes... a Page lesson is the most needed in the sty...   Feb 1 2008, 11:26 PM
- - inertia   I'm a bit surprised that some people don't...   Feb 3 2008, 01:47 AM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (inertia @ Feb 3 2008, 01:47 AM) I...   Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM
|- - inertia   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 2 2008, 07:58 PM) And ...   Feb 3 2008, 04:09 PM
|- - jacmoe   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 3 2008, 01:58 AM) And ...   Feb 4 2008, 09:46 PM
|- - OrganisedConfusion   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 4 2008, 08:46 PM) If ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:05 PM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 4 2008, 09:46 PM) Mur...   Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM
|- - jacmoe   QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM) I wa...   Feb 7 2008, 09:15 PM
|- - Muris   QUOTE (jacmoe @ Feb 7 2008, 09:15 PM) Sor...   Feb 7 2008, 11:49 PM
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- - shellshock1911   Page took a new view of rhythm guitar and thus mad...   Feb 3 2008, 02:06 AM
- - OrganisedConfusion   I will forever dislike Led Zeppelin as I think Dee...   Feb 3 2008, 02:28 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 3 2008, 02...   Feb 3 2008, 02:28 PM
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- - Robwylde   Every guitarist has an opinion about every guitari...   Feb 3 2008, 02:36 AM
- - Gerardo Siere   I agree with muris Page´s uniques are about the s...   Feb 4 2008, 12:06 AM
- - Slammer   Well, Jimmy Page used to be my favorite-well tied ...   Feb 4 2008, 10:28 PM
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