What If Facebook Would Not Exist From Tomorrow On? |
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Apr 12 2014, 10:46 PM
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It makes 'getting the word out easier' and all the info that's needed to get folks out to gigs.
I actually hate pretty much everything about Face Brag or (Fussbook) as I like to call it. I have thought many times in the last few months about leaving. I've noticed several of my hipper (and younger) muso buddies are leaving it - ? Call people, send e-mail (if that still exists in your no FB fantasy?), regular mail, flyers in music stores and rehearsal spaces, go to the bars/clubs more. The old fashioned way. *Personally, for me, hanging out still gets me gigs and gets more people to the gigs. You know, the personal touch. Call me crazy but I believe people actually respond better to that anyway. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 13 2014, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 13 2014, 10:05 AM)  One thing I HATE is when I don't know in what way, my wall gets spammed with videos I don't wanna watch You can set it so you have to approve anything added to your wall from others. I do that. Nobody but me can post on my wall. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 13 2014, 06:31 PM
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Great topic! If facebook wouldn't exist tomorrow, my band would loose the best place to communicate news to our followers. We use a lot to promote gigs, videos, new songs, projects and everything related with the band.
Personally is also good to auto promotion and to be in contact with friends. The bad things is when you let it make you waste too much of your time. That's the worst part, that we have control if we give use to this social network. -------------------- My lessons
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Apr 13 2014, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 13 2014, 10:31 AM) Great topic! If facebook wouldn't exist tomorrow, my band would loose the best place to communicate news to our followers. We use a lot to promote gigs, videos, new songs, projects and everything related with the band. I respectfully disagree. If FB was gone tomorrow, remember, it would be gone for everybody. You'd promote Cirse the same way folks have been doing it for literally hundreds of years. Put up handbills, tell people, mail a card, hangout, etc. You guys are good with promotion. It probably would only consume the same amount of time you guys spend collectively on FB. But you ask, "what about when we're going to play out of our home town?". 1) someone in the band probably knows somebody in whatever town you're going to. 2) the club/venue you'd play would advertise and even get a radio announcement. Remember - no social media so they don't expect you to bring the people ... and they don't want to lose money. I think FB/Twitter/etc. is fine for promoting gigs and the info surrounding the gigs but it's really no different than it was before. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 13 2014, 07:32 PM
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If Facebook was gone tomorrow, another social network would simply take over...
- How do you use Facebook and what benefits does it bring you? I use to use it as a socialising means for a large group of friends. However it provided the opposite, nothing was personal or meaningful, quite a few strangers would simply add you, and interact became for a state of how many so-called friends you got on your profile. Spamming rubbish annoying game requests, etc. Wasting away time in a meaningless void of self-destruction is it's main benefit - Farmville anyone? - What do you hate about it? Facebook was nicknamed "Project Dataminer" - with the main purpose of gathering peoples personal details and information. This details can then be sold on and used by the government, advertisers, etc. People post all sorts of information on there and no one reads the small print on the signup page, it's a quite smart way to get information. It got to the point where they where going to be shutdown, but since so many people used it and didn't care, it was up to them and merely warned about. You see it was considered unmoral for 'murica to microchip babies and track/monitor them throughout their lifes - though they even consider this a requirement to get jobs at one point in time, it was deemed as not allowed to be forced upon people. Facebook timeline is the next best thing to do this for them. Everything you post, like, etc, is recorded. If you delete something, it just hides it from you, but is still there years later. Pictures you upload and tagged are monitored and they use Photo DNA to scan them. Photo DNA can work out faces, etc, and match them with others to a mass database, then age them, etc. It doesn't matter if you have modified the image, resized or cropped it, or even changed the colours, etc. You provide everything, your activities for the days, your so-called 'likes', and pretty much your entire life to the point they know more about you than even you do. They can use all this details for hopefully "good", such as they use it on the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children and to disrupt the proliferation of online child exploitation. The CIA even paid to own a small part of facebook and has full access to it. They mostly use it for their recruitment, but also tracking and finding missing people, children, finding terrorists and criminals, etc. Suicude/Murder/Confession notes left on Facebook are also considered strongly and sometimes helped. It's even been used to stop mass gate crasher plans. Employer can use it to check out the real personality of people before they employ them, etc. However, this goes one step more. If they have access to all of that, so does everyone else, consider it zero privacy and available to anyone who cares to look. A person simply needs to create a small crappy facebook app and request permissions once in it's entire lifespan, 99% will click okay to without even reading what it's looking up - your entire profile, personal details, photo collection, etc - all can be viewed and stolen via that single app even if your not online or using it. Facebook applications gain access to all this data (which at least 90% attempt to do, in some cases it's the sole purpose of that rubbish small app). Try this, click that 'like' button on some rubbish, but as a pattern - such as all celebrates wearing a cap. You will notice over time they adjust and all start to copy the same behaviour, what's actually happen is they sold on those details and adjust what you view to your own liking. Advertising boxes will change to what it considers you 'like', even if you simply randomly click 'like' on any and everything. It updates almost your entire page with related posts, etc, all personalised to what it believes you 'like', which could be entirely off if you don't follow any set pattern behaviour. Then those 'likes' are even shared with your friends, family, and random strangers. Enjoy $20 million of pay offs to keep your privacy invaded -> http://mashable.com/2013/01/03/facebook-settlement-email/ That's an entire $10 per person for anyone that complained enough about it! All of this is considered highly unmoral, privacy options are but a joke, but hey that's paranoid America for ya! You signed up to it willing and signed your life to them. Maybe next time be careful what you post in case your boss sees you enjoying a party during the weekend. - What would you do if from tomorrow on, there wouldn't be any Facebook anymore? Celebrate? Nah, probably just the same as I always do and ignore it. Nothing much would have changed and privacy/security is still a joke elsewhere anyways too. This post has been edited by Azzaboi: Apr 13 2014, 07:49 PM |
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Apr 14 2014, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 13 2014, 02:47 PM) I respectfully disagree. If FB was gone tomorrow, remember, it would be gone for everybody. You'd promote Cirse the same way folks have been doing it for literally hundreds of years. Put up handbills, tell people, mail a card, hangout, etc. You guys are good with promotion. It probably would only consume the same amount of time you guys spend collectively on FB. But you ask, "what about when we're going to play out of our home town?". 1) someone in the band probably knows somebody in whatever town you're going to. 2) the club/venue you'd play would advertise and even get a radio announcement. Remember - no social media so they don't expect you to bring the people ... and they don't want to lose money. I think FB/Twitter/etc. is fine for promoting gigs and the info surrounding the gigs but it's really no different than it was before. Trust me. I have been playing in professional bands since 1999, first Damnation, and since 2003 with Cirse and things changed drastically since we have facebook. So I worked with my bands after and before Facebook and other social networks. Things started to change when fotolog appeared but as soon as we learnt how to use facebook the band started to grow every year. What's the difference? We could reach lots of music fans for free. Reaching a magazine audience, radio audience is usually something that you have to pay for here. Everything became cheaper and this I helped us to grow in popularity and this makes us survive as a band. If facebook disappears tomorrow, we would obviously search for new possibilities but that's why I said that we would lose the best place to promote our band. -------------------- My lessons
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Apr 15 2014, 11:47 PM
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Kinda wordy but interesting and worth thinking about nonetheless.
I'm assuming there are ways to circumvent the BS although probably time consuming. As I mentioned in either this thread or one of the other FB threads I'm noticing a lot of bands and musicians (out here) have started to ditch FB completely. I have no idea what they're going to but they're also a lot younger, cooler and social media savvy than I am. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 16 2014, 01:59 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Apr 16 2014, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 15 2014, 08:13 PM) Egad!!! Respectfully, the footwork and time involved in doing things "the old way" is not really comparable imho in terms of time/effort/expense. Sure, we could go back to printing flyers and and all that, but I remember all that and I gotta say, facebook makes it soooo much simpler to connect directly to fans locally and from all over the world. It's a real blessing to be honest despite all of it's warts, lame privacy policy, lame pay to play posts, zombie like, etc. It's still the quickest and simplest way to connect with folks all over the world with a couple of clicks. Yeah, but part of Cosmin's hypothetical was 'what if facebook ceased to exist tomorrow?' What if the internet in general gets cost prohibitive in the form of a tax and/or regulation? What if all social media becomes illegal due to a fanatical govt. directive or some fanatical privacy legislation? What if it becomes so impossible to use due to the total saturation of ads, spam and cat photos? What if ... ? -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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