QUOTE (JVM @ Jul 27 2007, 12:40 PM)
Gotta agree with uncreator here. Some of the greatest artists have been hip hop/rap guys. Some of my favorites are Tupac, Snoop, Eminem, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, Busta Rhymes, and Aesop Rock. I don't know as much about it or as many good artists as I'd like, but I like these guys.
I think most people don't like it because they don't give it a chance. I didn't like Tupac at first, but once I started really listening to him, I realized he's amazing. Also, I think today the majority of music on the radio, rap or not, is terrible, so if you don't give rap a chance and pursue it yourself all you're going to hear is the bad stuff. There's a lot more rock music that has been produced over the years I think, so there's bound to be more "good" rock than "good" rap, just because rock has had a lot more time. So there's less good rap to be found than good rock, I THINK, but it's still worth going after.
I'm really glad you mentioned Aesop Rock. He's one of my favorite rappers. And I liked your point about pursuing rap for yourself that was good.
And on the subject of whether or not rap is music - I can see where you guys are coming from...rap is essentially percussion, a little bassline, and talking....but if you only look at music for music then you're missing half the experience. A big part of music is lyrics...poetry is a big part of the experience, even if it is urban themed and without melody. I doubt half of you could talk as fast as Tech N9ne and not trip over your words. Simply the ability to ennunciate at high speeds like that is admirable. As I said before though, there are lots of rap/hip-hop groups out there that have creative musical backing tracks - especially in the case of organic hip hop because ALL their tracks are bands behind the rappers. You just gotta know where to look.
You should all look up Madlib.
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This post has been edited by Pantalaimon: Jul 27 2007, 07:41 PM