Harmonic And Melodic Minor Modes Names |
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Dec 25 2012, 12:16 PM
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I was reading some material about improvising over dominant7 chords when I saw a Mixolydian b13 b9 scale. When I took a closer look on it, I realised that it is the fifth mode of Harmonic Minor scale. Well, since Harmonic Minor scale is a minor scale, shouldn't Mixolydian b13 b9 be called Phrygian #3 instead? At first name "Mixolydian" led me into missunderstanding about where the mode had come from...
Mixolydian b13 (or b6) is the 5th mode of Melodic Minor scale, so shouldn't it be called Phrygian #2 #3 as well? P.S. I've found these scales in our Scale generator as Phrygian Major Scale (Mixolydian b13 b9) and Mixolydian flat 6 (Mixolydian b13 (or b6)). This post has been edited by K1R: Dec 25 2012, 12:23 PM --------------------  Guitar Altamira M01D, Samick Royale 3, Musima Lead Star 1 Effects Boss ME-25 Amp Stagg 40 GA DSP DAW SONAR LE YouTube | Facebook | Last.fm “One day you pick up the guitar and you feel like a great master, and the next day you feel like a fool. It’s because we’re different every day, but the guitar is always the same…beautiful.” ~ Tommy Emmanuel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You have a whole collection of musical ideas and thoughts that you’ve accumulated through your musical history plus all the musical history of the whole world and it’s all in your subconscious and you draw upon it when you play” ~ Joe Pass |
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Jan 1 2013, 06:56 PM
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Names can be confusing indeed!
After re-reading this thread I realized that I was (mistakenly) talking about a different scale completely -  I read phrygian #3 as if it was raising the third degree of a normal phryg scale - making the minor 3rd a major 3rd. Example: A Bb C D E F G A changes to A Bb C# D E F G A 'This' is what I call Phrygian Nat. #3 (sounds cool over dom and alt/dom chords - McLaughlin uses it a lot sans the 6th degree, A Bb C# D E G A). *Also I should have said 5th mode of the (D) Harm. Min. (not mel.min.). *I realize the mix of sharps and flats can be confusing but it's the only way I can get it to make sense intervalically. I'm new here so my apologies for my confusion. I will mos def read more carefully from now on,  And Happy New Year! -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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The formula is actually 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 - and indeed it goes well over dominant chords
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K1R Harmonic And Melodic Minor Modes Names Dec 25 2012, 12:16 PM
ConnorGilks Hey man! some names are interchangeable, but t... Dec 27 2012, 02:24 AM
Cosmin Lupu QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Dec 27 2012, 01:24 A... Dec 29 2012, 09:03 AM
vonhotch QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Dec 27 2012, 01:24 A... Dec 30 2012, 01:26 AM ConnorGilks QUOTE (vonhotch @ Dec 30 2012, 12:26 AM) ... Dec 30 2012, 03:30 AM
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Cosmin Lupu Indeed the names are based on function and I also ... Dec 30 2012, 10:10 AM klasaine QUOTE (K1R @ Dec 25 2012, 11:16 AM) I was... Dec 31 2012, 01:15 AM Cosmin Lupu QUOTE (klasaine @ Dec 31 2012, 12:15 AM) ... Dec 31 2012, 09:40 AM
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ConnorGilks QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 30 2012, 09:10 A... Jan 1 2013, 03:37 AM Cosmin Lupu QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Jan 1 2013, 02:37 AM... Jan 1 2013, 05:34 PM
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klasaine Excellent point ConnerGilks!
*I prefer phryg... Jan 1 2013, 04:34 AM ConnorGilks QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 1 2013, 03:34 AM) E... Jan 1 2013, 09:38 AM
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klasaine Yes, phryg/dom. Especially cool sound over a 7#9 c... Jan 2 2013, 06:27 PM Cosmin Lupu QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 2 2013, 05:27 PM) Y... Jan 2 2013, 09:24 PM
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klasaine Exactly and part of me now thinks that I too shoul... Jan 2 2013, 09:55 PM Cosmin Lupu Great input here mate It looks like you are a fel... Jan 3 2013, 09:16 AM klasaine QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 3 2013, 08:16 AM... Jan 3 2013, 05:15 PM
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Andre Nieri Hi mate. This scale is commonly refered as to Phry... Jan 3 2013, 05:41 PM ConnorGilks QUOTE (Andre Nieri @ Jan 3 2013, 04:41 PM... Jan 4 2013, 04:28 AM Matt Warnock Guitar Very fun mode for 7th chords, with a few names tha... Jan 8 2013, 09:25 PM Cosmin Lupu This looks very interesting I had no clue about t... Jan 9 2013, 11:53 AM casinostrat QUOTE (Matt Warnock Guitar @ Jan 8 2013, 08... Jan 9 2013, 10:38 PM Matt Warnock Guitar QUOTE (casinostrat @ Jan 9 2013, 09:38 PM... Jan 12 2013, 04:31 PM
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