Good Drum Program
ElHombre
Oct 10 2013, 04:54 PM
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Hello

I use EZ drummer, but I can almost only use 4/4 time signature.
I is not possible atleast for me to change it in the actual daw.

I was thinking of getting Superior drummer instead? good or not?

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ElHombre
Oct 13 2013, 12:03 PM
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Thank Todd but that did not work at all for me, I have used it before and I can only seem to change the tempo, never the signature.
I feel like im missing something, something u have already expected me to do to get it to work but i have not done


When working with projects i only drag the actual grooves out to the track
Well the bars change when I do this, but actual drums remain the same

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 11:03 AM) *
Thank Todd but that did not work at all for me, I have used it before and I can only seem to change the tempo, never the signature.
I feel like im missing something, something u have already expected me to do to get it to work but i have not done


When working with projects i only drag the actual grooves out to the track
Well the bars change when I do this, but actual drums remain the same


I think I know what your trouble is - are you writing the drum grooves from scratch in the DAW over the newly set time signature grid? smile.gif

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Oct 13 2013, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 12:49 PM) *
I think I know what your trouble is - are you writing the drum grooves from scratch in the DAW over the newly set time signature grid? smile.gif


I am not writing them biggrin.gif
Just "dragging" ready made grooves

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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 03:58 PM) *
I am not writing them biggrin.gif
Just "dragging" ready made grooves


Well, that solves your problem smile.gif You should write them from scratch according to the time signature that you set beforehand. It will most likely work wink.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 05:10 PM) *
Well, that solves your problem smile.gif You should write them from scratch according to the time signature that you set beforehand. It will most likely work wink.gif


The only thing I have ever programmed for drums is a few "count ins" in 4/4
I would be more than lost unfortunatley sad.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 06:48 PM) *
The only thing I have ever programmed for drums is a few "count ins" in 4/4
I would be more than lost unfortunatley sad.gif


Mate - it's very simple smile.gif The first step would be to analyze a simple groove and re-write it so that you may understand how things work - you open up the piano grid and if that channel has the drum pluggin assigned, each piano key (the black and white ones on the left side) will have a drum element assigned - of course, if you say you have written the 1,2,3,4 hi hats you have done this at the most incipient level smile.gif Now, try it with the simplest groove - listen to it and try to emulate it on the grid.

The grid is divided into rhythmic subdivisions as you will choose them, but it's better to set it on 16th notes smile.gif

Please let me know if there are questions and I'll gladly help further.

QUOTE (Barthandelus @ Oct 13 2013, 06:31 PM) *
Great topic, interesting stuff.

I have never really thought about making my own drum tracks - might give it a go now!

So it looks like Superior Drummer is the way forward. Do i need a DAW as well? Is Reaper good enough, or would something from Cubase be better / easier?

I take it SD contains loads of loops that can then be edited in the DAW?


Mate - as I said, it's better to learn how to write a groove from scratch, rather than be confined in using pre made loops. You need a DAW, having the SD assigned to a midi channel, on which you will start writing the drum groove. Reaper is very good so, please try this and once you do it, open up the piano roll or events grid how it's called and follow these steps:

he first step would be to analyze a simple groove and re-write it so that you may understand how things work - you open up the piano grid and if that channel has the drum pluggin assigned, each piano key (the black and white ones on the left side) will have a drum element assigned - of course, if you say you have written the 1,2,3,4 hi hats you have done this at the most incipient level smile.gif Now, try it with the simplest groove - listen to it and try to emulate it on the grid.

The process is pretty nicely described in here:



The grid is divided into rhythmic subdivisions as you will choose them, but it's better to set it on 16th notes

What do you think?

Cosmin

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- ElHombre   Good Drum Program   Oct 10 2013, 04:54 PM
- - Caelumamittendum   Superior Drummer is brilliant, but I think it woul...   Oct 10 2013, 05:25 PM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   Exactly! The meter must be changed with the Da...   Oct 10 2013, 08:11 PM
- - Sinisa Cekic   I recently started to use Abbey road. Maybe my ear...   Oct 10 2013, 10:04 PM
- - Bogdan Radovic   QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 10 2013, 05:54 PM) ...   Oct 10 2013, 10:27 PM
|- - Ben Higgins   QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Oct 10 2013, 10:2...   Oct 11 2013, 08:15 AM
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- - Cosmin Lupu   Ben pointed things right But it depends on what D...   Oct 11 2013, 09:34 AM
- - ElHombre   I use reaper. Maybe Im wrong, but for me changing ...   Oct 12 2013, 08:34 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   You can change time signature/temp in reaper as ma...   Oct 12 2013, 08:55 PM
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|- - Todd Simpson   BINGO!! Cosmin Nailed it If you are dragg...   Oct 13 2013, 07:16 PM
||- - Barthandelus   Great topic, interesting stuff. I have never real...   Oct 13 2013, 07:31 PM
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||- - Barthandelus   Cool stuff! Can i lay down a backing track in ...   Oct 14 2013, 09:22 AM
||- - Cosmin Lupu   QUOTE (Barthandelus @ Oct 14 2013, 08:22 ...   Oct 15 2013, 08:15 AM
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|- - enlo22   QUOTE (ElHombre @ Oct 13 2013, 06:48 PM) ...   Oct 15 2013, 12:51 PM
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- - Gabriel Leopardi   I think that Cosmin found the problem. Most of th...   Oct 13 2013, 05:17 PM
- - Cosmin Lupu   Marco is right - that is also a possibility, but t...   Oct 16 2013, 03:45 PM
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