Best Solid State Amp
Gabriel Leopardi
May 1 2013, 10:14 PM
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Hi guys! I have been discussing with a friend who is Electronic Engineer about Tube amps and Solid State Amps. His point of view is that Tube Amps are something obsolete from the past and that newer technologies are better...

As I have never tried a top line Solid State Guitar Amp, I was wondering which you think are are the best ones for rock & metal.

I know that Tech21 is doing some of these.

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klasaine
May 3 2013, 04:35 PM
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Really clean and very high gain tones SS can do very well.
Its the middle ground - low, medium and crunch - that is ( so far) they're weak point.

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BINGO smile.gif The "Mid/low gain" range is where tube amps really shine. Emulating that is quite processor intensive and requires replicating harmonics/overtones with fine detail that is a challenge for some modelling systems. The processors get better and algorithms get better each year, so eventually, I'm sure some SS amp/processor will do a spot on clone of a KLON On mid gain. We are getting close, but you can do it with a tube amp as mentioned for a pretty cheap price, and faking it with math doesn't come cheap yet smile.gif


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QUOTE (klasaine @ May 3 2013, 11:35 AM) *
Really clean and very high gain tones SS can do very well.
Its the middle ground - low, medium and crunch - that is ( so far) they're weak point.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 3 2013, 12:35 PM) *
I'm sure some SS amp/processor will do a spot on clone of a KLON On mid gain. We are getting close, but you can do it with a tube amp as mentioned for a pretty cheap price, and faking it with math doesn't come cheap yet smile.gif


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And ... and this is huge for musicians in bands on stage ... with a decent tube amp and few nice analog pedals you can easily TWEAK VERY QUICKLY to get the tone you need for that gig/venue. Most tube amps and analog pedals are by design '1(or 2)-trick ponies' but if that's the trick you need - nothing else really works.

Now, in the studio, with good converters and a good word clock - even a POD 2.0 is still very seviceable. I've had a Line 6 POD since 1999 and I haven't upgraded since the 2.0 upgrade (I just put the new processor in my original POD). I still use it on actual sessions (not just demos) for TV and movies - tons of players do. I've nailed the models that I feel 'work' (for me) and I really have no desire to fk with anything that's working.
Having said that I am thinking about an 11 Rack.

Also, I would love an SS amp that just gave me one GREAT real Marshall Plexi tone and/or Fender BF Deluxe tone (not the recorded, mixed and mastered tone - the actual tone and feel) - that's all. I can do the rest with guitars, a couple pedals and my hands.

I personally think one of the (self imposed) road blocks for SS amp builders is that 'most' of them are trying to do it all. Like, here's the entire history of high-gain amps in one $300.00 small combo. Ummm ... no, not really - sorry.
How about just three: JCM 800, AC 30, BF Deluxe ... and no fx (OK, maybe reverb?) Nail those 3 and you have a winner!
I guarantee that they'd sell MANY of those to actual professionals and that in turn would stimulate the student and amatuer markets.

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- Gabriel Leopardi   Best Solid State Amp   May 1 2013, 10:14 PM
- - SpaseMoonkey   I can only think of a few amps that are SS. Oldie...   May 1 2013, 11:33 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   BTW those are two FINE AMPS! IMHO. I LOVE the...   May 3 2013, 04:06 AM
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- - Socky42   The Peavey Vypyr is definitely up there with the b...   May 1 2013, 11:37 PM
- - Todd Simpson   "Obosolete" is a strong word. People can...   May 2 2013, 01:06 AM
- - klasaine   There's a company called Pritchard. They make ...   May 2 2013, 04:20 AM
- - maharzan   I think the time has come that digital amps are ve...   May 2 2013, 06:59 AM
- - Mudbone   This is a replica of the legendary Trainwreck Soli...   May 2 2013, 07:39 AM
- - klasaine   Here's an actual Ken Fisher 'Trainwreck...   May 2 2013, 07:44 AM
- - Darius Wave   My favourite solid state amps are Randall + Hughes...   May 2 2013, 09:02 AM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   Interesting answers. I will share this thread wit...   May 3 2013, 04:59 AM
- - ConnorGilks   I highly disagree when it comes to tube amps being...   May 3 2013, 09:12 AM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   Cool video featuring the AMT amp. I haven't h...   May 3 2013, 02:53 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Very well said. As COSMIN often points out, he ca...   May 4 2013, 05:41 AM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 4 2013, 01:41 A...   May 4 2013, 05:21 PM
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- - Darius Wave   My solid state Hughess & Kettner Club Reverb 6...   May 9 2013, 10:35 AM
|- - Amp360   Best means different things to different people. ...   May 16 2013, 04:47 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   This is a really good point, thats a GREAT amp. It...   May 17 2013, 06:22 AM
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- - Slavenko Erazer   I don't like solid states. U can't get dec...   May 17 2013, 09:26 AM
- - TwistedHeaterWires   To the original post. There are some very good sol...   May 17 2013, 06:43 PM
- - deeaa   Sonically, on record, I don't find tubes are t...   May 28 2013, 06:55 AM
- - pdf64   I've not a whole lot of knowledge of the curre...   Jun 3 2013, 12:05 AM
- - Britishampfan   I would like to offer my experience. Are tubes ob...   Jun 3 2013, 05:38 AM
- - Blue Willy   Roland JC120 is a nice clean amp and very versatil...   Jun 4 2013, 03:05 AM
- - deeaa   Tubes will be around in military for quite a while...   Jun 4 2013, 07:50 AM
- - SixStringSamurai   To be honest, I don't count modelling as solid...   Jun 4 2013, 08:56 AM
- - Spock   I am really diggin this Yamaha THR10X. My friend ...   Jun 4 2013, 10:38 AM
- - deeaa   Every amp I ever tried, maybe save some 20 dollar ...   Jun 4 2013, 11:11 AM
- - Darius Wave   I don't know if this could be called descent b...   Jun 4 2013, 11:54 AM
- - Blue Willy   As has been said before in this thread, best means...   Jun 11 2013, 06:57 AM
- - deeaa   How do you like the guitar sound on this one: htt...   Jun 12 2013, 07:12 PM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (deeaa @ Jun 12 2013, 03:12 PM) How...   Jun 21 2013, 05:10 PM
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- - bobg   I grudgingly sold my1985 Solid State Yamaha G100-1...   Jun 20 2013, 11:49 PM
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