Ibanez Ts808 Vs Fulltone Ocd, amplitube4 is convenient, but I like the sound micing a low watt amp Options

[MrVegas]

I have a Blackstar ht-5 and a sm57. the ht5 is good for what it is and its got a decent gain Channel, but sometimes its just not enough gain. I have been using amplitube4, and i am impressed with it. when im just jamming on amplitube it sounds pretty good through my monitors and in the mix, but when I record I obsess over the tone, reamping, turning knobs and moving virtual mics around all day and just can't be happy the sound.
At the moment my Blackstar ht5 is the only other gear I can work with, (when I find some people to play with im gonna get another amp, and I got my eye on the orange rocker 15 head)..
So im gonna mic up my Blackstar and I want to get a good overdrive pedal. I'm looking at a OCD drive and a ts808, I wonder it either of the pedals will push the amp into metal territory, just for recording? and maybe act like a EQ dialing some vintage sounds and some good thick chug. I have some pretty cool pedal already that will give me the ability to shape my tone through the ht5. what do you guys think? what are your experiences with these pedals , and with amplitube4 if you have used it?

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[Mertay]

I have a Blackstar ht-5 and a sm57. the ht5 is good for what it is and its got a decent gain Channel, but sometimes its just not enough gain. I have been using amplitube4, and i am impressed with it. when im just jamming on amplitube it sounds pretty good through my monitors and in the mix, but when I record I obsess over the tone, reamping, turning knobs and moving virtual mics around all day and just can't be happy the sound.
At the moment my Blackstar ht5 is the only other gear I can work with, (when I find some people to play with im gonna get another amp, and I got my eye on the orange rocker 15 head)..
So im gonna mic up my Blackstar and I want to get a good overdrive pedal. I'm looking at a OCD drive and a ts808, I wonder it either of the pedals will push the amp into metal territory, just for recording? and maybe act like a EQ dialing some vintage sounds and some good thick chug. I have some pretty cool pedal already that will give me the ability to shape my tone through the ht5. what do you guys think? what are your experiences with these pedals , and with amplitube4 if you have used it?

It's been a while but I remember the ht-5 having a lot of gain, when tried ts9 the result wasn't much tone shaping but more like refining. My overall comment for modern amps are usually OD pedals with a bass knob works better. I had a ts9 but after using an OCD clone never looked back. It has more output, the drive is more amp-like and can shape the distortion noticeably.

I can also recommend the mxr superbadass distortion, its some-what capable of replicating both of those pedals eq-wise

As for software, the market turned to concept solutions. Like, rather than trying to do everything you get something not so versatile but does what it does very good. THD gets a lot of love here too, it has a module that works like a Kemper (you can sample but can buy from 3rd part developers). It may actually have an HT-5 with-in the demo version you can try out.

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[Todd Simpson]

Both pedals make a good clean boost. If you can try both in a store before buying, that's your best bet. If not, the 808 is hard to go wrong with. Which is why the 808 is still with us after all this time. Nearly every other overdrive is based on tube screamer. Still, some folks do prefer OCD.

I really dig amplitube. I never liked the stock amp in the free version but I bought the "metal pack" long ago and it really made a huge difference. Came with wads of pedals, rack gear, etc. Even then you need the right patch. Creating the right patch takes time and experience just like guitar. Finding a patch that is at least half way there is a good start.

I do like overloud THU better than amplitube, but some folks don't. Back to trusting one's ears

I have a Blackstar ht-5 and a sm57. the ht5 is good for what it is and its got a decent gain Channel, but sometimes its just not enough gain. I have been using amplitube4, and i am impressed with it. when im just jamming on amplitube it sounds pretty

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[MrVegas]

If you can try both in a store before buying, that's your best bet.

normally I would head over to sam ash and check them out but, stores shut down like everything else in vegas

the 808 is hard to go wrong with. Which is why the 808 is still with us after all this time. Nearly every other overdrive is based on tube screamer.

for sure! I used to have one, I should have kept it. I went ahead and ordered the OCD from Sweetwater, ill probably het the ts808 later and just have both on my pedaL board

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[MrVegas]

I really dig amplitube. I never liked the stock amp in the free version but I bought the "metal pack" long ago and it really made a huge difference. Came with wads of pedals, rack gear, etc. Even then you need the right patch. Creating the right patch takes time and experience just like guitar. Finding a patch that is at least half way there is a good start.

I bought the mark v amp, I like it, but like you said takes time and with time I have found decent tones, but I get tired of messing with it and I like playing through a amp. I will use amplitude a lot, I would just like to go back and forth and get a tone im happy with out of my little amp.

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[Todd Simpson]

Both would be handy You can use one to boost the other and turn just about any amp in to a fire breathing monster.

normally I would head over to sam ash and check them out but, stores shut down like everything else in vegas


for sure! I used to have one, I should have kept it. I went ahead and ordered the OCD from Sweetwater, ill probably het the ts808 later and just have both on my pedaL board

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[klasaine]

Being one who mics low wattage amps all the time and also plays (until recently) live with both a TS and an OCD, I personally don't find them all that similar. TS is great for boosting and tightening an already overdriven amp - any overdriven amp. The OCD is a "distortion" box. Though it can be used as a clean(er) boost it doesn't work as well tightening up a crancked amp. It has too much low end.

I recommend both.

*As to the genealogy of the OCD; V1 is harder edged, V2 has smoother top end and a touch more compression, OCD ge (germanium diodes) more open sounding and will get into fuzz territory at it's top gain settings, V2.2 slightly less compression resulting in higher and potentially cleaner headroom.
*The newest versions of the OCDs have switchable true or buffered bypass.

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This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 27 2020, 04:11 AM

[Todd Simpson]

Great point from KEN. The OCD can be a clean boost but it doesnt act like a high pass filter so it doesnt tighten up tone as much just by itself. They both work well on the same board though again per ken!

I like the MARK V as well. But like you said, it's a time suck and going back and forth between real/software amps can be a challenge since they are such different animals. Part of why so many folks got a kemper and said to heck with it. I still like the flexibility of software amps especially during mixdown when you can still change every aspect of the tone. The mark v is my fave amp that they offer.

I bought the mark v amp, I like it, but like you said takes time and with time I have found decent tones, but I get tired of messing with it and I like playing through a amp. I will use amplitude a lot, I would just like to go back and forth and get a tone im happy with out of my little amp.

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[MrVegas]

I personally don't find them all that similar.
I recommend both.

yes. I did some research about the ocd, and demos on you tube, which pointed at the big difference between the two, same as you pointed out, I've never used a ocd, so I wasn't familiar with it, and I was looking for a good distortion pedal so that's why I decided on that one. thanks

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[PosterBoy]

I used to have the BB Preamp + and an OCD v4 on my pedal board, and the OCD was my go to. power it with 12-18v rather than 9v

I wasn't playing metal so take that into consideration, for me it was a nice grainy low to medium pedal

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[klasaine]

yes. I did some research about the ocd, and demos on you tube, which pointed at the big difference between the two, same as you pointed out, I've never used a ocd, so I wasn't familiar with it, and I was looking for a good distortion pedal so that's why I decided on that one. thanks

It's a great distortion pedal.
*All Fulltone gear is top notch.

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