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[jstcrsn]

When will we understand, this is in England, Not Syria


this was in 2012

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This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Dec 27 2015, 03:03 PM

[Mertay]

Very un-cool where the debate started to slide, but though I might not be objective since I live in a muslim country I must reply;

I checked the 98:6 on the video where it mentions at 2.50.

Googled 98:6 in my native language and read 3 websites, they all translate that those who deny a book (yes a book, doesn't specify kur'an) or won't follow the path of god will be punished by hell fire, they are the worst.

Not very like the guys translation is it? to be fair, anchient arabic as far as I heard is very hard to translate as one written word can mean different things and even sentences needs expert opinion to be truly understood.

Thats why there are many different translations of kur'an, maybe thousands and one can imagine not all of them are dependable or even ment to be exact translations...

Edit; Made a search in english (wrote kur'an 98:6 on google) , this is a good example of what I mean as it references different peoples translations;

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?ch...=98&verse=6

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This post has been edited by Mertay: Dec 29 2015, 11:12 AM

[jstcrsn]

Very un-cool where the debate started to slide, but though I might not be objective since I live in a muslim country I must reply;

I checked the 98:6 on the video where it mentions at 2.50.

Googled 98:6 in my native language and read 3 websites, they all translate that those who deny a book (yes a book, doesn't specify kur'an) or won't follow the path of god will be punished by hell fire, they are the worst.

to be fair

Was not meant to offend . I have to ask though ,What kind of culture do we live in , A heteronomous( were a few tell others how to live) or autonomous ( were everyone decides how they want to live)culture. Can I not even ask a question to find a answer . I have tried to be very careful in not saying anything, but rather showing video that I feel has relevance and that deserves a critical ear.
If that verse is not talking about the Qur'an , what other book would matter to get such punishment ?

As for the "to be fair " , Why can we be criticle of every other religion and our perceived inconsistencies, and not hold muslims to the same standard.My thought would be , that If the translation is wrong that a proper translation would be made , if one can not , I have to assume it was correct

For the record ,This guy used to be an atheist who bashed his dad skull in with a hammer , and his best friend in college was a devout Muslim and they would argue constantly , that is how he knows the Quran so well

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This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Dec 29 2015, 12:30 PM