Rap Isn't Music And Kurt Cobain Can't Play Guitar., Please convince me! |
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Apr 21 2008, 10:46 PM
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Hi, Kris, you should add some of the last post of the other topic in the first here...
I was a little bit confused...  But, than coming to the topic. 1) Rap is music. I know 3-4 genres that I would criticize before criticizing it. (Check this for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZA8je1Goc ) 2) "Can't play" is a strong word. But Kurt Cobain can not be called an awesome guitarist. He is an average guitarist. But that doesn't mean he is not an excellent composer. I think the confusion comes from people mixing these 2 things. In my humble view, Kurt Cobain beats Steve Vai as composer, meaning I hear Nirvana's songs almost every day while the same is not true for Vai's. But of course the converse is the true if you compare them as guitarists. This post has been edited by Gus: Apr 21 2008, 10:48 PM -------------------- my "Thank you GMC!" video
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Apr 22 2008, 11:23 AM
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I think this whole thing with rap not being music is just to get a lot of musicians, especially guitarist, to be up in there high horse, and preach on there own skill.
I think thats mainly the reason why I stay away from topics like this, especially in a guitar based forum. I listen to rap as much as I listen to Metal. It takes as much talent to create a hip hop song as it is to come up with a lick on a guitar. Just because it is processed on a computer, or maybe a beat sample, it doesn't make it any less of a music than what your precious wooden instrument can do. Music is not always about playing or learning an instrument. If it was, then maybe we shouldn't call this guy a musician. This post has been edited by VinceG: Apr 22 2008, 11:44 AM -------------------- |
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Apr 23 2008, 09:59 AM
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An intressting discussion, with lots of sensible arguments.
 I’ve given this some thoughts in the past since I’ve always been listening to a lot of different types of music and been wondering why people, and especially some musicians I’ve known over the years, choose to limit there musical sources of inspiration. For me it’s never been about genre. The music has to touch me in one way or another, be it Hip hop, rock, Mozart or what not. It’s irrelevant IMHO. I agree with what some of you already have said, in that I believe music is what someone creates in their heads (and hopefully souls). Guitar, piano, computers or what you choose to use to realize that music is only a choice of tools and perhaps a palette of colours you use to make music the way you want. A computer is just one way to do that. I mean, how many here at GMC can type a document in Word? All of us I bet.  However, how many of us would be able to write a really great piece of literature? Here's a couple of Hip Hop songs I realy like, maybe they can inspire someone here as well? Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bvig4SAZBEs Guru (Jazzmatazz) Feat Ronny Jordan on guitar. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ts7WZux4e7w&feature=related And if you liked Ronny Jordans giutar playing I higly recommend this as well: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGMauW4AUKA -------------------- __________________________________________
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