Versatile Amp Wanted
sargal
Mar 10 2009, 04:55 PM
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Hi GMC forum!

As the topic reads, I'm looking for a versatile amp suitable for multiple genres and situations. It will be my 2nd amp purchase after my currently used starter/practice amp Marshall MG15DFX.

I'll be traveling to Germany on April 4th to visit the "Musikmesse" in Frankfurt, an international trade fair for musical instruments and stuff. All the big (and many small) players will be there, so I can try a couple of products of different manufacturers. What I'm hoping to get from you guys is some advice which models to test.

I try to give you guys as much info as possible. If I forgot something or you just want to know more, let me know.

Reasons why I like to upgrade the MG15DFX:
  • No FX loop
  • No foot switch
  • "Ballsier" sound if that makes any sense
  • New gear is fun rolleyes.gif
  • If practicing goes well, I might be able to join my first garage band in autumn or winter '09 so I was told I need a bit more punch to compete with drummer and others. No first hand experience on that yet.


Gear I use at the moment, besides the amp of course:
  • PRS Custom 22 (2 humbuckers)
  • Line6 M13 (multi fx floor board)


New amp will be used for:
I guess this is the most important thing, hence I need something flexible. Because of my diverse interest in music, I don't want to limit myself to one style, if that is possible. (List in order of importance)
  1. Rock
  2. Country
  3. "Old school metal"*
  4. Blues

* To me, that is the more melodic stuff with no or very little shouting. I'm no expert in that area, I just like bands like GnR, AC/DC, Maiden, Scorpions, Manowar, Metallica. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is all not the high gain stuff that is used by many "modern" metal sub-genres and bands.


Okay, now for the other requirements of the amp:
  • FX loop to make best use of the M13 which I really like
  • Foot switching possible (guess that is true for most good amps)
  • Budget is up to 2500 Euro total (=for combo or head+cab)
  • New or used, fine with either one
  • Should be usable for jamming with a small band, the first (small) gigs (should I ever get there huh.gif ), and - if possible - for playing at more or less neighbor-friendly volume in my appartment. If the last thing is not possible, just forget the idea. Priority is on band play.


Thoughts so far: (from reading forum, talking to friends, watching youtube, etc.)
  • 2 boxes at 20kg each are easier to transport than 1 box at 35kg, giving the head+cab an advantage. Only got that impression by lifting some in stores. No actual experience since I don't own any of those yet.
  • Multiple channels are a big plus, I guess. How do you switch them with effects in practice, say between intro and main part of a song? Do you need to hit the channel switch and then the knobs on the effect board? Sounds like stomp acrobatics to me. blink.gif
  • 2x12" speakers seems to be the most practical solution after reading on the subject. Kinda got away from the 4x12" idea (Power! cool.gif ) I first had when visiting some stores. I know there are a lot of different preferences for 1x12" or 4x12", and I'm still open for suggestions, not set on 2x12".
  • "Style" is not that important, I like the look of both vintage and modern style.
  • Read on the forum about some amps' capability to change output power, e.g. 15/30W or 50/100W. That sounds pretty cool to me for flexibility, but I don't know how a strong point that is.
  • Build quality (materials, crafting) is important to me, even though I handle all my stuff with great caution. I want something that lasts.
  • I guess built-in effects are not that important since I got all kinds of effects on the M13.


Current list of potential amps: (from sticky, other postings, friends. Alphabetical order)
  • Engl Blackmore E650
  • Fender Deluxe
  • Fender Hot Rod
  • Fender Twin
  • Hughes & Kettner Switchblade
  • Hughes & Kettner Trilogy
  • Hughes & Kettner TriAmp
  • Laney Lionheart
  • Marshall 6100
  • Marshall JVM 410
  • Mesa Boogie 5:50
  • Orange Rockerverb
  • Vox AC30CC(H)
  • Vox AC30H(H)


Okay, that's it. Thanks for reading if you made it here. laugh.gif
I greatly appreciate any thoughts on the subject, be it general advice, tech stuff, or experience to cut down or expand the list (or even both). I hope I gave enough information and put it in a somewhat readable format. Since it's me wanting help from you, I gladly help you helping me by answering any questions you might have.

Rock on!
sargal

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- sargal   Versatile Amp Wanted   Mar 10 2009, 04:55 PM
- - Pavlov   Definitely try out the Fender Twin Reverb and the ...   Mar 10 2009, 05:09 PM
- - 29a   You should consider the ENGL Savage too, it's ...   Mar 10 2009, 05:30 PM
- - Marshmall0wz   Rockerverb is extremely versatile, crushing metal ...   Mar 11 2009, 02:10 AM
- - ZakkWylde   The Hughes and Kettners, the Orange and the Marsha...   Mar 11 2009, 02:29 AM
- - MickeM   Bringing it down to one amp from your list that I ...   Mar 11 2009, 09:25 AM
- - David Wallimann   If you can find a Mesa Mark IV give it a try. It...   Mar 11 2009, 02:27 PM
|- - Muris Varajic   I have Engl Sovereign 2x12 combo and I love it, to...   Mar 11 2009, 02:56 PM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   Hmm tough choice, tough choice! 2500e a very n...   Mar 12 2009, 01:37 AM
- - Marshmall0wz   OH!!! Checkout the Egnater Tour Master...   Mar 12 2009, 02:57 AM
- - Marc_Maiden   mesa amps are very versatile my boogie Mark I is...   Mar 12 2009, 04:49 PM
- - sargal   Thank you all for your effort and the really helpf...   Mar 12 2009, 11:13 PM
- - 29a   I don't think the ac30 would make a good metal...   Mar 12 2009, 11:50 PM
|- - mattacuk   QUOTE (29a @ Mar 12 2009, 10:50 PM) I don...   Mar 12 2009, 11:58 PM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   i agree with 29a and mattacuk, AC30 is probably no...   Mar 13 2009, 12:53 AM
- - ZakkWylde   Why is the Marshall not so good built quality? The...   Mar 13 2009, 01:43 AM
|- - MickeM   QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Mar 13 2009, 01:43 AM)...   Mar 13 2009, 08:51 AM
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- - Marshmall0wz   QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 12 2009, 07...   Mar 13 2009, 03:25 AM
|- - ZakkWylde   QUOTE (Marshmall0wz @ Mar 13 2009, 03:25 ...   Mar 13 2009, 03:58 AM
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- - Marc_Maiden   yeah but for the price oranges arent worth it at a...   Mar 13 2009, 04:35 AM
- - ZakkWylde   They aren't as expensive in Europe as they are...   Mar 13 2009, 05:01 AM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Mar 13 2009, 01:43 AM)...   Mar 14 2009, 11:45 PM
- - ZakkWylde   That's the funny thing about Orange amps, they...   Mar 14 2009, 11:50 PM
|- - Ivan Milenkovic   QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Mar 14 2009, 11:50 PM)...   Mar 14 2009, 11:56 PM
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- - sted   Hey Sargal! I've been searching for a new...   Mar 15 2009, 10:00 AM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   Haven't played it mate, but it looks and sound...   Mar 15 2009, 01:34 PM
- - Marshmall0wz   QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 14 2009, 06...   Mar 16 2009, 03:16 AM
- - sargal   Update As the fair was last weekend already, I wa...   Apr 7 2009, 04:10 PM
- - sargal   Just to follow up on this and share the end with y...   Jun 10 2009, 09:27 AM
- - tonymiro   Sargal, if you can get an attenuator. That will a...   Jun 10 2009, 09:40 AM
|- - sargal   QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jun 10 2009, 10:40 AM) ...   Jun 10 2009, 12:08 PM
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- - audiopaal   Congrats on your new amp I got a new one myself y...   Jun 10 2009, 09:46 AM
- - AdamB   A good attenuator will allow you to dial the outpu...   Jun 10 2009, 12:52 PM
|- - sargal   QUOTE (AdamB @ Jun 10 2009, 01:52 PM) 50W...   Jun 10 2009, 10:39 PM
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- - MickeM   Excellent!!! Good thing about these ...   Jun 10 2009, 06:15 PM
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