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Mertay
Jan 11 2023, 09:30 PM
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I guess after making so much research about more than a month ago, this showed on youtube suggestions.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UM2...audio-interface

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Vol...audio-interface

Volt 2's only difference is it has an extra input.

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Todd Simpson
Jan 12 2023, 01:12 AM
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The UA should have way better preamps than the behringer for sure. UA stuff is just great quality all the way up and down the line. It's more pricey than the beringer unit of course, but it should be. It's just a better unit.

i was glad to see UA putting out units like this that were not depending on proprietary hardware cards. I get why they needed to do it way back when, but these days, cpus can handle the overhead which is why I think they have started putting out gear that doesn't require proprietary encoding hardware. With advances in cpu/gpu technology, the algorithm is the thing that really matters. I think their future will be about shifting towards native software/plugins.

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Jan 12 2023, 03:22 PM
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UA will never go 'only' or completely Native (or at least anytime soon).
One of the big attractions with the Apollo interfaces (not the Volt series) is Real-time tracking with fx. Being able to record up to 32 channels live using UAd plugins at near 0 (sub 3 ms) latency. Pro-Tools HDX, Antelope Zen, McDSP are the same type of thing. You can also mix front-of-house with these.
One inst or vox, maybe even two or three - no problem with modern CPU.
Mixing a ton of tracks - no problem with CPU
Recording in real-time, a full band, w/FX, CPU only ... not yet.
They have their niche.

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Todd Simpson
Jan 13 2023, 11:57 PM
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Never is a big word smile.gif To be sure being able to record big track counts with live fx (not rack based but ua internal based) is a big shift to be sure. Certainly though it's just a matter of time as cpu densities continue to grow more extreme. It seems clear to me that it's more inevitable than "never" to be honest. All we have to do is wait and see. smile.gif

THe move that UA made toward a subscription model and doing native plugins is a good indicator of where they seem to finally be embracing the future. After all they have been using the same DSP for over a decade now without any real advances. Of course, these units still work and still work great. However, the only issue with the native plugins now is scale. As cpu/gpu power continues to scale at a crazy rate, I have no doubt that similar performance will be had whether using native or sharc based, even with large track counts during tracking/mixing.

Here is a guy ranting about this very issue.


QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 12 2023, 10:22 AM) *
UA will never go 'only' or completely Native (or at least anytime soon).
One of the big attractions with the Apollo interfaces (not the Volt series) is Real-time tracking with fx. Being able to record up to 32 channels live using UAd plugins at near 0 (sub 3 ms) latency. Pro-Tools HDX, Antelope Zen, McDSP are the same type of thing. You can also mix front-of-house with these.
One inst or vox, maybe even two or three - no problem with modern CPU.
Mixing a ton of tracks - no problem with CPU
Recording in real-time, a full band, w/FX, CPU only ... not yet.
They have their niche.

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klasaine
Jan 14 2023, 04:28 PM
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Like I said, they'll never go completely native. Their current hybrid approach is ridiculously powerful. Something very cool that UA does for customers that own the DSP versions is to give you the native versions for free. So far, there are only about 20.
Their VIs have always been native so it's not really a new thing for them.

Tangential but related ...
Find me one actual record Barry Johns has 'produced'. It's an honest query because I can't find anything.
*Don't confuse him with the British music hall singer from the 50s and 60 or, god forbid, John Barry of the James Bond theme fame.

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