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Toroso View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:20 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:20 PM	GMC:er Posts: 653 Joined: 26-August 08 From: Kingston, TN USA	This may be obvious to some, but this is me asking. How does one go about transferring a lick from one key to the next, or scale to scale maybe is better? Cheers You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Live well, and live often!

SonofDestiny View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:23 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:23 PM	GMC:er Posts: 551 Joined: 30-May 08 From: Netherlands	From one key to the next I think it's just a matter of rising every note a half step. From one scale to another it will be about using the same pattern, but different intervals. Hmm... actually I'm not sure. I think some of the pros have better explanations. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Wishlist: the world.

Ramiro Delforte View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:24 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:24 PM	Instructor Posts: 2.279 Joined: 4-August 08 From: Argentina, Buenos Aires	Here's a topic where I've made a large explanation with written examples https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=23427 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor Profile and Board LIVE VIDEO CHATS EVERY MONDAY AROUND 22PM (GMC HOUR)

Matt23 View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:25 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:25 PM	Accomplished Tone Master Posts: 1.745 Joined: 17-January 08 From: Scotland	Very simply you just put every fret in the lick down/up the same number of frets. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Toroso View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:32 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:32 PM	GMC:er Posts: 653 Joined: 26-August 08 From: Kingston, TN USA	QUOTE (SonofDestiny @ Feb 4 2009, 12:23 PM) Hmm... actually I'm not sure. I think some of the pros have better explanations. LOL! That's what happened to me too. Made my head hurt. I guess what I'm asking is, if scales don't have the same notes, what would you use? Intervals? I don't know? Thanks Ramiro, I'll try to digest that. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Live well, and live often!

Matt23 View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 06:51 PM
Feb 4 2009, 06:51 PM	Accomplished Tone Master Posts: 1.745 Joined: 17-January 08 From: Scotland	Well if you're just transposing it then you just move all the notes by teh same number of tones, but if you're changing scale, you need to work out what intervals all the notes are. The work out what notes those intervals would be in the new scale. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Oxac View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 07:32 PM
Feb 4 2009, 07:32 PM	GMC:er Posts: 693 Joined: 14-June 07 From: Sweden	What I do, is that I find out the intervals for the lick. Lets say I have a lick in Ionian. It can contain these intervals: Root - Major Second - Major Third - Perfect Fourth - Perfect Fifth - Major Sixth - Major Seventh. Then I take that lick and find the root and EVERY interval. Then I play it in Lydian, the same intervals but I raise the Fourth 1 half step. Then I play it in Mixolydian, the same intervals as Ionian but I lower the seventh one half step. Then I do it Dorian style. Same as mixolydian but I lower the third one half step. Then aeolian - lower the sixth one half step. Phrygian - same as aeolian but lower the Major second to a minor second (one half step). Now do locrian, lower the Perfect fifth to a diminished fifth (one half step down). Now I try to connect them. Play them Ionian Dor... Ph Lyd Mixo Ae and Locrian, slowly. All with the same root, let's say C. Then you can do it modally up from C, like C ionian, D dorian, etc. All in one box, then do it in every box. Then you could do it with harmonic minor and its modes and melodic minor and its modes. This is the crazy way, but it's a good one. Because your practising transposing modally. This is a pretty cool thing to do because if you do EVERYTHING I said. When learning your favourite lick, you get 21 good licks that is easy to connect and improvise with. You are also learning notes on the fretboard, intervals, relative pitch hearing (associating sounds relative to the root with intervals). It takes time though and if you're in a hurry you'll need to jump to the mode you wanna play in right away and skip the other ones. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Olle "AJ" Svensson

Vasilije Vukmiro... Vasilije Vukmirovic View Member Profile	Feb 4 2009, 08:06 PM
Feb 4 2009, 08:06 PM	Jazz Instructor Posts: 2.691 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Belgrade	You have to have more or less good ear for that, I mean, it can be done by some theory knowledge, but it is far more amusing and useful to do it your self, figuring it out! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Visit My youtube channel Add me as friend on FACEBOOK!

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Feb 5 2009, 01:01 AM
Feb 5 2009, 01:01 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	As Vasilije said, theory and scale knowledge can be of lot of help, but using your ear is what makes it fun as well. Trying to mix and match different licks into different scales, and doing that for some periods of time makes it second nature - just like practicing on a technique. It's skill. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Muris Varajic View Member Profile	Feb 5 2009, 01:53 AM
Feb 5 2009, 01:53 AM	Instructor Posts: 15.459 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Sarajevo,Bosnia	Simplest way to move everything you play few frets up or down, depends of keys. But as you know, you can play same note on few different places on the fretboard, once you know all the notes on the fretboard and start thinking in intervals or degrees (spot on Oxac) transposing is really piece of cake. And of course use your ear, actually ear should do most of the work in the beginning, then you'll gain enough knowledge and routine, after that you just transpose without much thinking, it comes natural. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Youtube MySpace Website Album "Let It Out" on iTunes and CD Baby Check out my video lessons and instructor board! The Pianist tune is progress,check it out! "ok.. it is great.. :P have you myspace? Can i to personalize this for you guy?"

Pedja Simovic View Member Profile	Feb 5 2009, 02:55 AM
Feb 5 2009, 02:55 AM	Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia	Great question Toroso First thing I have to say about it is you have to really know your scales well. Thats very strong starting point! Once you know scales, you need to practice connecting them ex going from C dorian to Bb dorian etc Then you have to practice making music with those scales, not just running up and down scales without any melodic purpose ! I will talk about this more in next collaboration but there is definitely a lot of things to work on You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Video Lessons

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