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Oct 23 2008, 01:33 PM
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I'm glad the thread remains open, hopefully there will be some interresting instead of insulting discussions.
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Oct 23 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 23 2008, 03:04 PM)  I want to go into Iraq with a copy of Queen Greatest Hits Collection for every citizen. OC spreading the love since 1984.  I will solve this war.Good one
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Oct 23 2008, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 23 2008, 09:04 AM) I want to go into Iraq with a copy of Queen Greatest Hits Collection for every citizen. OC spreading the love since 1984. I will solve this war. i want on this band wagon!also i found several sources quoteing the deathtoll in iraq at over 100k so.. heres my evidence.. show me evidence that its not http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of...Iraq_since_2003 http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsec...IraqNumbers.htm http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22441.pdf (official report as of 2006-2 years ago) http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/casu-a28.shtml http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories...-us-occupation/ i could find more but i don't want to put the effort into something i know i can't be easily disproved about. -------------------- Schecter Exotic Star+ Peavey VK
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Oct 23 2008, 06:08 PM
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[quote name='Smikey2006' date='Oct 23 2008, 05:25 PM' post='279039']
i want on this band wagon!also i found several sources quoteing the deathtoll in iraq at over 100k so.. heres my evidence.. show me evidence that its not http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22441.pdf (official report as of 2006-2 years ago) Listen, you either don't get that every site you went to was a far left smear site extolling grossly exagerrated numbers, or you choose to believe such nonsense. The one accurate website you listed above , spoke of numbers of Iraqi civilian combat deaths in the 40-50 thousand range. Bear in mind that many of these people were killed by other Iraqis, insurgents, and murderers, as well as the unfortunate collateral damage of war. So, no, we did not kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. That's not our policy and most fair minded people understand that. The fact is, with JDAMS, LGBs, and other "smart" weapons, collateral damage is minimized. That's why they were produced. We have no intention of killing the innocent, only the enemy, and they have interspersed themselves among the innocent, in many cases using them as human shields, to perpetrate their crimes against humanity. When was the last time an American "terrorist" blew up a bunch of innocent civilians by detonating a bomb vest, or a car bomb, just to further their fanatical beliefs? It's wrong that we are involved in the Middle East. Our leaders have not had the foresight to persue alternative energy sources to alleviate our dependence on foreign oil. But, because of what happened on 9-11-01, we are now in it. Religious fanatics want us gone, and Israel gone. We won't let that happen. If we have to turn all of the Middle East into a giant parking lot to keep them from trying to destroy us, we will. As long as we don't actively persue the enemy, they will try to hit us, like on 9-11. We'll chase these lunatics to the four corners of the earth before we're done. Obama wants to negotiate with terrorists like Akhmadinijead. That only validates this nut as a world leader. The talking has been over for a long time...it hasn't worked with Saddam Hussein, and it won't work with Bin Laden or Akhmadinijead. McCain knows how to handle these mad dogs, not Obama. |
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Oct 23 2008, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (fatb0t @ Oct 23 2008, 07:39 PM) Frank, you need to understand - all news is biased okay? Fox news though they say they're "Fair and Balanced" are not. NBC, CNN all of those stations are biased, your newspaper is biased ALL OF IT IS. You need to read facts, not opinions, don't let someone else tell you the news - find it for yourself. It takes a lot more work but it's a lot more rewarding. Second off - media is the fourth branch of government in our system. Besides the judicial, executive, and legislative - In America we have the Media branch... People such as yourselves that absorb every thing they hear are directly influenced by the media. If the media collectively wants something to happen, wants some opinion accepted they can easily do it... People hear things and don't question them - they just absorb and internalize. Sometimes it's important to step back from what you hear and ACTUALLY think about it. Things come into focus. Just because Fox news said it doesn't mean it's necessarily true. If you take away the levels of abstraction you can cut a lot of the BS out of news. I'm not getting into this discussion but as a general statement I applaud what you just said. Too many people - still in general and not pointing fingers - just take in what they hear, belive it since they said it in the news and then they repeat it to others as the truth. An interesting personal experience was after 9/11 when a friend of mine, an US captain at the swedish embassy told me I should watch Fox news for the best coverage of the war. I gave it a try and it was just jaw dropping how it, to me as a foreigner, sounded more like propaganda than news reports. And in all fairness I'll state that CNN is biased the other way. -------------------- My bands homepage
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