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besip
Apr 14 2009, 02:02 AM
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OK I'm have 2 Guitar here

1. My cheap Esp ltd Viper 50 with •ESP LH-100 humbucking pickups

2 My new jackson Sl2 with 2 Humbuckers: Duncan JB and '59

I'm injured 3 month allready so don't pay attention pls for my bad playing

I playing here over My Vox Amp and Digitech Df7 pedal with same setings on bridge pickups on booth guitar

The thing is i like the Cheap Esp bridge pickup sound better for ne like the sound on my Sl2..To me sound on Esp more powerfuel and cutting{treble} like the sound on my Jackson

what is you advice to sound more like the Esp do??? Change pickups on my Sl2??? or just try to play more with the setings knobs??? or just try to put the pickup a little down-up???? or i blame my self and the jackson pickup sound better???


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ZakkWylde
Apr 17 2009, 10:31 AM
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Besip your problem is really simple:

Your LTD has ceramic magnet pickups and the Jackson has Alnico V magnet pickups!!!

Ceramic pickups have more output, a sharper tone, more attack and more high end then Alnico V magnets, who sound warmer, smoother. You are used to the ruff sound of your old pickups and you became accustomed to their tone and now you have completely diffrent pickups and you miss the old tone.

You can do two things:

1. Get accustomed to the SH-4, it sounds diffrent but it is a way better sounding pickup then the cheap ESP pickups you have, it is just not a straigh out metal pickup more of an allrounder.

2. Get a Seymour Duncan SH-6 for the bridge, it has a ceramic magnet and it will give you the sound youre looking for in your Jackson, it is a screaming metal pickup that will sound 10times better than the viper!

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Apr 17 2009, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 17 2009, 05:31 AM) *
Besip your problem is really simple:

Your LTD has ceramic magnet pickups and the Jackson has Alnico V magnet pickups!!!

Ceramic pickups have more output, a sharper tone, more attack and more high end then Alnico V magnets, who sound warmer, smoother. You are used to the ruff sound of your old pickups and you became accustomed to their tone and now you have completely diffrent pickups and you miss the old tone.

You can do two things:

1. Get accustomed to the SH-4, it sounds diffrent but it is a way better sounding pickup then the cheap ESP pickups you have, it is just not a straigh out metal pickup more of an allrounder.

2. Get a Seymour Duncan SH-6 for the bridge, it has a ceramic magnet and it will give you the sound youre looking for in your Jackson, it is a screaming metal pickup that will sound 10times better than the viper!



oohh you all ready give me same answer when we talk abouth the sustain on my jackson..The answer made sence..i'm know there is lot of profesional metal group who play over SH-4 brutal metal but they have probably diferent Amp like i'm do biggrin.gif

looks like i'm have 3 options
1.try to play with the knobs or new equipment if i'm buy some and looking for sound what i'm like
2. change the pickup
3 or buy 1 more axe{for example something like your Epiphone} rolleyes.gif

thanks for your reply again cool.gif

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QUOTE (besip @ Apr 17 2009, 01:52 PM) *
3 or buy 1 more axe{for example something like your Epiphone} rolleyes.gif
That's what I tell my girlfriend all the time tongue.gif Oh only one more!!!

Jonas

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Apr 17 2009, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (29a @ Apr 17 2009, 08:06 AM) *
That's what I tell my girlfriend all the time tongue.gif Oh only one more!!!

Jonas



haha laugh.gif if i'm be have lot of money i'm be maybe don't ask her tongue.gif

QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 17 2009, 08:05 AM) *
Those bands play the Sh-4 because they like it's characteristics. It's warm sounding, it does not have very much heights because it has very much output for a Alnico V pickup. If you want a brutal tone out of it you will need a crushing amp with enough distortion.



you right for example Arch enemy use SH-4 the sound is pretty hard and heavy but no so brutal like guys who play over Emg for example

looks like i try save money and buy 1 more axe tongue.gif i'm like epiphone,,also esp ec 1000 and i'm geting on V styles Ex styles or Dean tongue.gif

what is you advice for sounding more brutal..i mean like cut gain add mids???
i'm probably not gonna change those pickups yet for sure becouse i'm crazy and when i do that i'm will start missing the Sh-4 laugh.gif

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- besip   Sound Advice   Apr 14 2009, 02:02 AM
- - skennington   NOOOO don't change those pickups, there a nice...   Apr 14 2009, 02:15 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (skennington @ Apr 13 2009, 09:15 P...   Apr 14 2009, 05:33 AM
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- - Carlos Carrillo   one jackson Sl2 with 2 ESP LH-100 humbucking picku...   Apr 14 2009, 05:45 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (Carlos Carrillo @ Apr 14 2009, 12...   Apr 14 2009, 05:50 AM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   I think you answered your own problem pretty good ...   Apr 14 2009, 02:23 PM
- - 29a   I do turn down the lower mids quite a bit when pla...   Apr 14 2009, 02:49 PM
- - Marcus Siepen   I agree with Ivan, before changing the pickups you...   Apr 14 2009, 04:42 PM
- - besip   ok thanks all to your reply guys i'm will be ...   Apr 14 2009, 11:59 PM
- - Ivan Milenkovic   No prob Besip, anytime mate   Apr 15 2009, 01:33 AM
- - Sircraigery   Listen to your favorite guitar song, and try to ma...   Apr 15 2009, 04:50 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (Sircraigery @ Apr 14 2009, 11:50 P...   Apr 15 2009, 06:15 AM
|- - kjutte   Are the pickups in correct height?   Apr 17 2009, 12:28 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (kjutte @ Apr 16 2009, 07:28 PM) Ar...   Apr 17 2009, 02:43 AM
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- - Sircraigery   I always thought more gain was better until recent...   Apr 15 2009, 07:07 AM
- - 29a   If the pickup is closer to the string it will have...   Apr 17 2009, 03:37 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (29a @ Apr 16 2009, 10:37 PM) If. I...   Apr 17 2009, 03:51 AM
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- - Sircraigery   QUOTE (29a @ Apr 17 2009, 03:37 AM) If th...   Apr 17 2009, 03:54 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (Sircraigery @ Apr 16 2009, 10:54 P...   Apr 17 2009, 03:58 AM
|- - Sircraigery   QUOTE (besip @ Apr 17 2009, 03:58 AM) huh...   Apr 17 2009, 04:03 AM
|- - besip   QUOTE (Sircraigery @ Apr 16 2009, 11:03 P...   Apr 17 2009, 04:08 AM
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- - Sircraigery   Hmm, maybe try taking it in for a pro set up when ...   Apr 17 2009, 04:20 AM
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- - ZakkWylde   Those bands play the Sh-4 because they like it...   Apr 17 2009, 01:05 PM
- - ZakkWylde   Sure get another guitar! A Heavy Metal Beast^^...   Apr 18 2009, 12:25 AM
- - Keilnoth   Youtube is a public place and you are playing meta...   Apr 18 2009, 06:30 PM
- - besip   QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Apr 18 2009, 01:30 PM) ...   Apr 18 2009, 10:15 PM
- - Keilnoth   Ahah, sorry man, didn't know how to call those...   Apr 19 2009, 11:18 PM
- - besip   QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Apr 19 2009, 06:18 PM) ...   Apr 20 2009, 02:05 AM
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