18 Core Imac Pro? |
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Jul 2 2017, 05:21 PM |
woaw !!
my 10 cores xeon with HT (20 threads) look like a toy now Cheers Laurent -------------------- |
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Jul 2 2017, 09:51 PM |
Program developers have yet to efficiently utilize the number of cores available now for most. The number of cores have well outpaced actual function. But what a world it will be when 18 cores is the 'low' norm and computing processes actually require such threading. I can't imagine what process/creation/program that will tax such a system for the average every day jack or jill. Do you know who could immediately take advantage of 18 cores? Musicians like us. Want to record a song with multiple guitars? Want to use a software amp modeler like GuitarRig or Amplitube on each of those guitar tracks? And add effects like convolution reverb to each one? Then add more tracks for other virtual instruments like drums, bass, and synthesizers? And use a high sample rate with a low audio buffer size? A project like that can be a challenge for today's computers, even with modest track counts. Recording guitarists are often forced to freeze tracks or share effects on aux tracks to workaround these limitations. However, if you've got an 18-core computer, each track in an 18 track song is processed on its own core. Suddenly the song you have in your head that is cumbersome to record on a 4 core computer becomes easy to record on an 18 core computer. I'm not saying the 18-core iMac will make economic sense for everybody (or even anybody?), but can the typical recording guitarist make use of an 18 core computer? Absolutely! There's a famous (maybe apocryphal) quote attributed to Bill Gates years ago: he claimed nobody would ever need more than 640K of RAM in a computer . This post has been edited by Rammikin: Jul 3 2017, 05:12 PM -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jul 5 2017, 06:22 PM |
ALL CODE CANNOT BE PARRALLISED !!!! Sure, but the point is: for anybody reading this thread, i.e. a recording musician, the most cpu-intensive app for recording music they use (their DAW) is already capable of taking advantage of multiple cores. As Todd says, 18 cores may not be in the cards for many people, but 8 cores would definitely be useful. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jul 5 2017, 07:46 PM |
I'd sure like to have 8 cores in my laptop I've got 4 hyper threaded so they show up as 8 but you only get about 20 percent or so per hyperthread/virtual core The bus arbitration tends to suck 80 percent of the joy out of hyperthreading.
I"m guessing 8 cores on a single chip, that can be cooled in a laptop is quite possible. For DAWS that are multi threaded, it would be great!!!! The new chip from intel (the i9) is the one that will support up to 18 cores!!! not virtual, actual cores. It needs it's own proprietary water cooling system to stop it from melting however. We are on the cusp of a new age of computing power and it's about time. The macbook pro quad i7 I have from 2012 is not that much different from the macbook pro quad i7 that goes for 3 thousand today. A quantum leap in performance in long overdue imho. Of course, the i9 beast with 18 cores costs 2 thousand just for the chip. But hopefully, further down the price chain, will be 8 core chips that can be cooled with a laptop fan There may be such a thing on the market already, if not, hopefully soon https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/30/intel-core-i9-extreme/ Sure, but the point is: for anybody reading this thread, i.e. a recording musician, the most cpu-intensive app for recording music they use (their DAW) is already capable of taking advantage of multiple cores. As Todd says, 18 cores may not be in the cards for many people, but 8 cores would definitely be useful. We are just talking mostly about DAWs here. E.g. Recording software, which is mostly multithreaded alredy. LOGIC X, my fave daw, is able to hit all 8 (4 virtual 4 real) cores in my macbook. It would rock if I had 8 cores that hyperthreaded to 16 cores I'd be using plugins galore! about many core arch, please remember one important thing :
ALL CODE CANNOT BE PARRALLISED !!!! in many case, many core arch can't help...... per example, on my previous SGI Origin 3800 with 128 cores (MIPS64 R14000 700Mhz 16MbL2) , Blender REnder was fast as lightning, but Firefox was slugish... Cheers Laurent This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jul 5 2017, 08:01 PM |
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