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Apr 6 2020, 10:37 AM
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Worst pandemic leader ever; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/05/uk/boris...irus/index.html
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Apr 6 2020, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 6 2020, 10:37 AM)  Worst pandemic leader ever; https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/05/uk/boris...irus/index.html so.. you do know CNN is considered fake news , they told us they had proof of Trump being a russian agent for three years , now their paper's a good replacement for toilet paper,just take with a grain of salt, a very big grain |
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Apr 6 2020, 04:21 PM
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CNN is no more 'fake news' than Fox.
The Boris Johnson story is completely legit. There's nothing even remotely controversial about it. He has lingering symptoms and they want to check him out. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 6 2020, 04:27 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 6 2020, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Apr 6 2020, 05:02 PM) Not talking about that story in particular. But in the last 4 years, and longer, Fox had been far more accurate than CNN in their reporting. True but when the next president is a democrat fox will be just like cnn again its just how media works (not specific to USA either). The losing side goes into propaganda period as long as needed, the winning side stop pressures their journalists so they can actually have some time to do their job  Cnn international is globally stronger than fox specially on TV, thats why my habit is following them as a non-US citizen. Their website is also to me better than fox. https://www.foxnews.com/category/newsedge/international https://edition.cnn.com This post has been edited by Mertay: Apr 6 2020, 11:09 PM |
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Apr 7 2020, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 6 2020, 01:15 PM) True but when the next president is a democrat fox will be just like cnn again its just how media works (not specific to USA either). The losing side goes into propaganda period as long as needed, the winning side stop pressures their journalists so they can actually have some time to do their job Cnn international is globally stronger than fox specially on TV, thats why my habit is following them as a non-US citizen. Their website is also to me better than fox. https://www.foxnews.com/category/newsedge/international https://edition.cnn.com I have to disagree with you on that, at least in part and basically on the degree of fairness and balance. Fox has never been just like CNN. Not even close. The vast majority of big news media was in protection mode for the last administration. Obama was a media darling to the majority of the media to a much higher degree than Trump is a media darling to one big network which is Fox news. Call it propoganda lite if you want but they were very reluctant to report on things that would be unfavorable to that administration and even when they did, they made light of things, dropped it and moved on. Now that a somewhat more conservative admin is in office, they are reluctant or flat out refuse to report on anything positive or may cast the current admin in a positive way. The amount of uncorroborated and unsourced so called bombshells that have come and gone from media like CNN and MSNBC (just to name a couple) that have turned out to be completely wrong are far more numerous compared to what we have ever seen from Fox. And Fox has been more balanced and accurate in their reporting during either admin. Of course Fox leans one way, but the vast majority of the other big networks lean the other way to a greater degree, and even though they may lean to the right, Fox has been consistently more accurate for more than a decade. There have been studies done at different universities over the years that have consistently shown that the vast majority of the media leans left and that during this admin, the reporting has been in the high 90's percentile in the negative. It was the opposite to almost the same degree during the previous admin. So although there is some truth to what you say. It is far from equal or balanced from one side to the other. The bottom line is that this admin hasn't got a fair shake from the vast majority of the media in this country and arguably the world, with many being completely hostile to conservatives and this admin. And it wasn't close to being equally the opposite during the previous admin. We all have our opinions on this and I don't want to turn this into a debate on media bias because this thread, or this forum for that matter is not really the place for it and we all have better things to do, so I'll just add a couple of things and be done with the topic before we go off on a tangent. I assure you that I can show numerous examples and overwhelming evidence that supports my view to the extent that there really isn't a good argument against it, and it appears to me that most people see it too when you look at the various favorability ratings, grading and polling on the subject. It also seems that some don't want to admit it, or don't care, or that some may think that the level of irresponsible journslism we are seeing is somehow justified because of a political ideology, but what the media and the Democrats have tried to do to this President and his supporters is beyond disgraceful in my view. This post has been edited by AK Rich: Apr 7 2020, 03:15 AM |
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Apr 8 2020, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 7 2020, 06:36 PM) I was referencing our president. He was the one who said it was a hoax, see vid below. Folks have been twisting themselves in to pretzels trying to say that despite him saying it several times, he meant something entirely different. It's not worth a back and forth as folks are gonna believe what they want. I'm just sharing the vid that I was making the reference for. I was trying not to use his name directly as I didn't want this to devolve in to a closed thread. But, here he is using the H word saying that the democrats basically made it up as a way to attack him. Surely you saw this on the news? I apologize for getting one of my numbers wrong and thanks for the correction. Skip to 3:56 to see him say this is their new "hoax" and mention nobody has died yet. Then they have Fauci come on and they ask him if it's a hoax at 6:16 and he side steps it. Yeah, I knew exactly what you were referring to. That snippet is taken completely out of context, in fact there is no context at all in that short little snippet. Trump was comparing the Democrats politicization of the crisis and the ctiticism of the Trump administrations response to the virus to the Russiagate fiasco which he also calls a hoax and also his impeachment in the House which he calls a hoax as well. He also has described those two Democrat endeavors as "witch hunts" which they certainly look to be and were a complete waste of time and taxpayer dollars. This is what most voters believe by the way. He in no way called the virus itself a hoax, period. I know this because I saw the entire statement in full context from him myself. Nevermind what the "news" says. It's just more bs political spin, simple as that. And that's putting it nicely. This is from Snopes. The link is below. What's True During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu. What's False Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-cor...s-rally-remark/ This is from factcheck.org with a link below. Even after Trump explained his remarks, some Democrats — including former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg — continued to wrongly accuse Trump of describing the coronavirus as a “hoax.” https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trump-and-the-new-hoax/ And finally, this is the entire video of the rally in Charleston. Scroll to 1:13:55 To see for yourself what was said in context and unedited. I hope this thread does not get closed because I think it's important, although I believe there have been some significant exaggerations made here. But I can't let you get by with making a claim like that which is clearly false without a correction, or a challenge if that's what you want to call it. And thank you for the correction in your earlier post about the number of deaths from Covid-19. This post has been edited by AK Rich: Apr 8 2020, 04:22 PM |
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Apr 8 2020, 12:37 PM
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A little common sense ,might go a long way
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Apr 8 2020, 08:24 PM
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Generally we want to avoid any thread that ends up being a copy and paste of various news sources - whether they are legit or not.
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