Ibanez Edge Iii Question |
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Ibanez Edge Iii Question |
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Nov 18 2007, 05:43 PM |
I agree with you totally. I have been thinking about these points today. I sure did not know the floating trem system was this hard to tune/setup. But, I hate music stores also, so I decided to buy online. I have not given up yet, although I am close. I think the shim method is the trick. It's rather frustrating to say the least. I have had this RG for 4 days now and have yet to plug it in because it will not tune up correctly. And yes I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure this out. But I think I am close. Getting the bridge parallel and then tuning it up is not easy - the bridge wants to sink back into the body while one try's to tune the blasted thing - it's like a catch22 that repeats itself over and over. Go ahead. You will not offend me. Make your point. If it falls into the cavity: Losen the two screws inside (the ones that are screwed into the wood of the guitar) just a quarter or a turn. Tune up. I think your main problem right now is that when you get it in tune the strings will stretch making the tension less and the bridge fall back. Because a new guitar comes with new strings and these always takes some time of playing before they stop stretching and settle for a length. Some people stretch them by force, I play them, stretching them always makes the thin E string break for me. So I suggest you lose the locking nut, play for a couple hours , adjusting the string tension mainly with the machine heads (read: tune). If the bridge goes off too far you turn the screws. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Nov 19 2007, 02:32 AM
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I agree with you totally. I have been thinking about these points today. I sure did not know the floating trem system was this hard to tune/setup. But, I hate music stores also, so I decided to buy online. I have not given up yet, although I am close. I think the shim method is the trick. It's rather frustrating to say the least. I have had this RG for 4 days now and have yet to plug it in because it will not tune up correctly. And yes I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure this out. But I think I am close. Getting the bridge parallel and then tuning it up is not easy - the bridge wants to sink back into the body while one try's to tune the blasted thing - it's like a catch22 that repeats itself over and over. Go ahead. You will not offend me. Make your point. Don't forget to go here for help: http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm Best place I know of for help in setting up a floating tremolo system. Also try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1c-7-VMY_w...ted&search= and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjQ3p5Nh7-0 Hope these help? -------------------- You wish.
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Nov 19 2007, 08:22 AM |
No I would not do that. While trying to tune it over and over with even stagger tuning the strings keep going flat so the springs keep pulling and you can watch it move into the body. Heck, no wonder I cannot tune it - it's broken. One of the spring screws (the wood screws) has pulled out of the wood. Pretty small screws to hold back that much tension. This was the stock 3 spring setup. How can they expect these to hold 5 springs? Oh that's serious. Your guitar is made of basswood, which is a soft wood which can have trouble keepin prats that have been screwed in. Now, this I never heard of before but when you hear of a problem people have with their basswood guitars (most Ibanez) it usualy has something to do with the strap locks coming loose (besides the tremolo issues people have) and this is much the same issue. The wood can't hold a screw. You should have it returned! If they force you to keep it for some reason the fix would be a larger and longer screw. You may have to drill a larger hole in the metal piece that they keep. Maybe go for a Les Paul model next? (Stronger wood and no tremolo) Or if you really want a tremolo there's Jackson who makes their guitar mostly from Adler. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Nov 19 2007, 05:19 PM |
Oh that's serious. Your guitar is made of basswood, which is a soft wood which can have trouble keepin prats that have been screwed in. Now, this I never heard of before but when you hear of a problem people have with their basswood guitars (most Ibanez) it usualy has something to do with the strap locks coming loose (besides the tremolo issues people have) and this is much the same issue. The wood can't hold a screw. You should have it returned! If they force you to keep it for some reason the fix would be a larger and longer screw. You may have to drill a larger hole in the metal piece that they keep. Maybe go for a Les Paul model next? (Stronger wood and no tremolo) Or if you really want a tremolo there's Jackson who makes their guitar mostly from Adler. I don't think I will have any problems with the return. ZZOUNDS is a great place. I have bought tons of stuff from them over the years. If I was going to fix this I would fix it right. I would use a threaded stud - one end is a wood screw looking thread and the other end looks like a threaded rod. You would screw one end into the wood - maybe even expoxy it in place - and then you would end up with two threaded studs that you would slide your spring plate over. Then you would use those nuts with the nylon inserts to make your adjustments. Of course you would now being using a small wrench instead of a screwdriver, but this should last for the life of the guitar. BTW - I kind of figured this out by trial and error, but this is how to float your bridge - step 6 is key - makes perfect sense. http://www.musicgearsource.com/colar1.html This post has been edited by WTN: Nov 19 2007, 05:37 PM |
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