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Hello from Kansas, USA! |
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Feb 16 2007, 07:33 AM |
Hey Cody, I was born in KCK. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
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Feb 17 2007, 12:37 AM |
Rock Chalk man!! Who woulda thought Id meet up with another fellow jayhawker @ GMC. I am determined to budget for say 1200 - $1500, because I realize most of the time you get what you pay for. Ive only had base model guitars. I think maybe thats not always a good choice, as most base models are not as forgiving on the hands. I could be totally wrong, but thats my perception after using base models and talking with my more experienced guitar friends. However, one of my guitarist friends said its good to learn on an acoustic because it builds strength and callouses. As I mentioned, Im having to take it easy cuz my thumb muscles and wrists are real tight and sore right now. I get so stressed watching the games, I turn off the tv sometimes and listen to the radio broadcast. Against Florida we were down by 3 points with a minute and a half to go, I got out of my truck and climbed Campanile Hill and just listened to the screams of the people in town to know what was going on. As I walked down the hill I could tell things went right by the screams, I just was saying to myself, "I can't believe we won this," Now regarding the guitar, well I am a Fender and Gibson fan. Keep in mind that regardless of how many people say "oh this is a good as a gibson, or this is as good as a fender, or this is better than a gibson" most people given the choice will take the Gibson or fender, and they have the highest resale value. You may not feel the same, but I would go look at these two sites. www.lespauforum.com www.thefenderforum.com And read the advice, really good advice, very active sites. For the money you can get a very nice Fender. If you want to spend more, look at the Eric Johnson strat. People like those I think. I bought two Fenders from these guys in West Virgina and was happy with them. http://stores.homestead.com/GYost/Categori...American+Series You see the Fender American Deluxe Ash on that link? Same guitar as Kris's, except it is a 3 tone finish. See the price is $150 less than musiciansfriend.com, and they pay shipping. Over Christmas they were even 10% less than that. I picked up an American Series Strat for $750 I think, pretty 3 tone, that was $200 less than musiciansfriend.com. That ash has the noiseless pickups. People like those, but not exactly the traditional strat sound, a bit thicker. I have heard of guy getting an American Series strat for $650. Typically those will be old stock, but who cares if it is good? If you are patient and look around, you can get one for a price that if you wanted, you could sell it used on ebay. I also bought a tele from these guys, both guitars were perfect. If you are thinking Gibson, talk to a forum dealer listed on the lespaulforum.com site. They have the best prices, and best service, people really like them. I got a 58 les paul reissue for $2,400, from Saul at Centre City in San Diego. Those come out of the Gibson custom shop. The quality is a bit better, and they cost more (but not that much more if you shop around). Nothing wrong with the production line Gibsons though. I think their quality control slipped a few years back, but they have got that pretty much ironed out now. Saul will give you a good price on a Gibson. That 58 reissue is unreal, great tone, and the sustain on the reissues is really unsurpassed. Back in the 50's they would extend the neck joint much further into the body, and the reissues reproduce that. The frets are lower also, I like that, it is faster. Finish is great. The forum dealers will send you pictures so you can look at them and pick the one you want. Now you don't get to play it first, but you know, I feel that is way overstressed by some. Some people think oh this one sounds special. I think they imagine that more the most part. There is a lot of consistency I think, at least in the better American brands. If you are considering a les paul, you will get the best advice to be found there. And remember, whatever anyone says, they have the best resale value, that cannot be denied. frank edit: oh, consider the les paul studio also, that is the best buy. up to a few weeks ago gibson had a sale on those, everyone had them for $1,000 free shipping. Now back up to $1,200. A les paul stuido really sounds like a standard (except the standards have the burstbucker pickups, which are brighter). Studio has the more traditional pickups. And I have seen new studio premium + to be had for $1,000 new on ebay, from what looked to be a reputable ebay dealer. Those are a very pretty top, prettier than a standard, it is a AAA flame. In fact I bought one on ebay, and I really like it, sound great, looks great. If you buy it used though, make sure the guy guarantees that you can return it if anything is wrong. I would not worry so much about warranty, provided the ebay dealer looks solid, and has guaranteed you that nothing will be wrong with the guitar. Even if it has something wrong it might be minor and easily fixed by a shop. But you want to option to send it back, and the better ebay dealers will give you a guarantee. edit #2: Oh, another brand people love is the PRS (Paul Reed Smith). They make a cheap line, some foreign import I am sure. But their top line is expensive. I am sure those are very nice. I hear nothing bad about them. Saw an interview of Eddie Van Halen and he was playing one. But I did not want to get obsessed over a 3rd brand, so I stuck with Fender and Gibson and am happy, have all the guitars I want (7 of them). But PRS is the third brand I and sure I would respect (based on all I have heard). But I am not going in that direction, life is too short to do the "grass is greener on the other side routine". I figure that once I had a PRS, the gibson/fender grass would look just as good from afar. The PRS is supposed to get more types of sounds (both fender-like and gibson-like). However, that is why I have 7. I never have been a fan of the "do it all" types of tools. If you are interested in PRS, talk to Saul at Centre City (lespaulforum.com dealer). He sales those also. This post has been edited by fkalich: Feb 17 2007, 01:40 AM |
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Feb 17 2007, 06:55 PM
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I get so stressed watching the games, I turn off the tv sometimes and listen to the radio broadcast. Against Florida we were down by 3 points with a minute and a half to go, I got out of my truck and climbed Campanile Hill and just listened to the screams of the people in town to know what was going on. As I walked down the hill I could tell things went right by the screams, I just was saying to myself, "I can't believe we won this," Now regarding the guitar, well I am a Fender and Gibson fan. Keep in mind that regardless of how many people say "oh this is a good as a gibson, or this is as good as a fender, or this is better than a gibson" most people given the choice will take the Gibson or fender, and they have the highest resale value. You may not feel the same, but I would go look at these two sites. www.lespauforum.com www.thefenderforum.com And read the advice, really good advice, very active sites. For the money you can get a very nice Fender. If you want to spend more, look at the Eric Johnson strat. People like those I think. I bought two Fenders from these guys in West Virgina and was happy with them. http://stores.homestead.com/GYost/Categori...American+Series You see the Fender American Deluxe Ash on that link? Same guitar as Kris's, except it is a 3 tone finish. See the price is $150 less than musiciansfriend.com, and they pay shipping. Over Christmas they were even 10% less than that. I picked up an American Series Strat for $750 I think, pretty 3 tone, that was $200 less than musiciansfriend.com. That ash has the noiseless pickups. People like those, but not exactly the traditional strat sound, a bit thicker. I have heard of guy getting an American Series strat for $650. Typically those will be old stock, but who cares if it is good? If you are patient and look around, you can get one for a price that if you wanted, you could sell it used on ebay. I also bought a tele from these guys, both guitars were perfect. If you are thinking Gibson, talk to a forum dealer listed on the lespaulforum.com site. They have the best prices, and best service, people really like them. I got a 58 les paul reissue for $2,400, from Saul at Centre City in San Diego. Those come out of the Gibson custom shop. The quality is a bit better, and they cost more (but not that much more if you shop around). Nothing wrong with the production line Gibsons though. I think their quality control slipped a few years back, but they have got that pretty much ironed out now. Saul will give you a good price on a Gibson. That 58 reissue is unreal, great tone, and the sustain on the reissues is really unsurpassed. Back in the 50's they would extend the neck joint much further into the body, and the reissues reproduce that. The frets are lower also, I like that, it is faster. Finish is great. The forum dealers will send you pictures so you can look at them and pick the one you want. Now you don't get to play it first, but you know, I feel that is way overstressed by some. Some people think oh this one sounds special. I think they imagine that more the most part. There is a lot of consistency I think, at least in the better American brands. If you are considering a les paul, you will get the best advice to be found there. And remember, whatever anyone says, they have the best resale value, that cannot be denied. frank edit: oh, consider the les paul studio also, that is the best buy. up to a few weeks ago gibson had a sale on those, everyone had them for $1,000 free shipping. Now back up to $1,200. A les paul stuido really sounds like a standard (except the standards have the burstbucker pickups, which are brighter). Studio has the more traditional pickups. And I have seen new studio premium + to be had for $1,000 new on ebay, from what looked to be a reputable ebay dealer. Those are a very pretty top, prettier than a standard, it is a AAA flame. In fact I bought one on ebay, and I really like it, sound great, looks great. If you buy it used though, make sure the guy guarantees that you can return it if anything is wrong. I would not worry so much about warranty, provided the ebay dealer looks solid, and has guaranteed you that nothing will be wrong with the guitar. Even if it has something wrong it might be minor and easily fixed by a shop. But you want to option to send it back, and the better ebay dealers will give you a guarantee. edit #2: Oh, another brand people love is the PRS (Paul Reed Smith). They make a cheap line, some foreign import I am sure. But their top line is expensive. I am sure those are very nice. I hear nothing bad about them. Saw an interview of Eddie Van Halen and he was playing one. But I did not want to get obsessed over a 3rd brand, so I stuck with Fender and Gibson and am happy, have all the guitars I want (7 of them). But PRS is the third brand I and sure I would respect (based on all I have heard). But I am not going in that direction, life is too short to do the "grass is greener on the other side routine". I figure that once I had a PRS, the gibson/fender grass would look just as good from afar. The PRS is supposed to get more types of sounds (both fender-like and gibson-like). However, that is why I have 7. I never have been a fan of the "do it all" types of tools. If you are interested in PRS, talk to Saul at Centre City (lespaulforum.com dealer). He sales those also. Lots a GREAT information here Frank! You know, I am a fan of David Gilmour, so he has drawn me to the idea of buying a Fender. I know thats probably one of the worst reasons for buying a guitar... because someone else plays it or it simply looks cool. I have average size hands at best, so I have been wondering if a guitar like the Ibanez JS1000 would be a good fit. Ive read somewhere that satriani has smaller hands than say steve vai. Anyway, I guess once I get a bit more talent on this acoustic, I will try out a bunch of makes/models in actual stores. To be honest, I dont have enough nerve to walk up and start jammin infront of anyone. Sad I know.... Its probably the main reason why I havent actually tried any of these guitars on for size yet. Thanks again for the useful information. Go Hawks tonight agains Nebraska! Cody |
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