What Amp Should I Get? |
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What Amp Should I Get? |
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Sep 8 2013, 02:06 AM
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As a noob, I would ask since you cant crank it anyway, why don't you just go the plugin route, like guitar rig 5?
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Sep 8 2013, 05:04 AM |
Perhaps a Marshall?
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Sep 8 2013, 06:32 AM |
You mean like this
https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/vanhalenish-patch-overloud-th2 To be honest, for home recording, you can get pretty much any sound you want out of a good amp sim if you prep the signal properly and design a good patch. I've stopped using amps entirely for home recording as they simply require too much volume to sound good through a mic and I lose too much tone trying to get the signal back in the computer. I've been using OVELROUD TH2 for high gain and SCUFFHAM AMPS plugins for medium gain/clean and I have been getting simply amazing results that would be hard to beat in a home setting with a "real" amp. UNCGUY has a good point here. But in the end it's up to you I have found that typically it's mostly about unfamiliarity with the technology that gets in peoples way. Also, there is a good bit of tweaking needed for most folks, but the good news is I've four threads full of killer presets for the major emulation plugins so you've got a big head start Here is a patch from the SCUFFHAM plugin as well. https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/scuffham-amps-s-gear-plugin-1 actually pretty much every track on my soundcloud account was done with plugins and all the patches are available here for download so if any of these tones fit the bill your in luck https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd But if you are set on getting an actual amp, you might look at the"TUBEMEISTER" Hughes and Kettner line they came out with a bit back that has direct out recording and switchable amp loads and such. http://hughes-and-kettner.com/tubemeister/tubemeister5.html I have used simulated guitar tones from my pedal board but it is not like the sound produced from an amp, very different
I guess I should explain what type of music I generally play. I play mostly rock styles, clean to high gain van halen sound. This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 8 2013, 06:33 AM |
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Sep 8 2013, 06:40 AM |
I don't know what your budget is but I'd look for a decent 50w Plexi style amp, for higher gain just boost with an OD pedal.
In the big bux high end side of things is a 100w Suhr Sl68 or towards the other end of the spectrum (but still out of the high volume manufacturing made in china range) Ceriatone 50 w Plexi Lead -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 8 2013, 05:03 PM |
You mean like this https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/vanhalenish-patch-overloud-th2 To be honest, for home recording, you can get pretty much any sound you want out of a good amp sim if you prep the signal properly and design a good patch. I've stopped using amps entirely for home recording as they simply require too much volume to sound good through a mic and I lose too much tone trying to get the signal back in the computer. I've been using OVELROUD TH2 for high gain and SCUFFHAM AMPS plugins for medium gain/clean and I have been getting simply amazing results that would be hard to beat in a home setting with a "real" amp. UNCGUY has a good point here. But in the end it's up to you I have found that typically it's mostly about unfamiliarity with the technology that gets in peoples way. Also, there is a good bit of tweaking needed for most folks, but the good news is I've four threads full of killer presets for the major emulation plugins so you've got a big head start Here is a patch from the SCUFFHAM plugin as well. https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/scuffham-amps-s-gear-plugin-1 actually pretty much every track on my soundcloud account was done with plugins and all the patches are available here for download so if any of these tones fit the bill your in luck https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd But if you are set on getting an actual amp, you might look at the"TUBEMEISTER" Hughes and Kettner line they came out with a bit back that has direct out recording and switchable amp loads and such. http://hughes-and-kettner.com/tubemeister/tubemeister5.html Hey Todd for some reason I did not read your whole post. Thank you for your help, I'm going to look intoyour recommendations. |
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Sep 8 2013, 10:13 PM |
Hi mate! I'm with Todd about this. I think that the best way to record by line at home would be getting an ampe emulator, you can go for the software ones like Guitar Rig, Amplitube or many others, or you can also get a Pod HD500 or any other like Boss GT10. Todd talked many times about a some tricks that you can do to get the best of amp emulators, so I would follow his suggestions.
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Sep 9 2013, 09:10 AM |
You should do that man. I'm having a ton of fun with yesterdays backingtrack by the way! Thank you for your inspiration. The rockverb amp from orange isn't bad at all tho. I love fender twin reverb too, great affordable amp. Found it!!! There is a soundcloud preview as well. I tried to get the same grindy character as the JIM ROOT TINY TERROR. Here is the link to download the ORANGE patch. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=619354 Don't get me wrong, I LOVED that amp. The Jim Root head is one spiff little hot rod But again for home use, to make it sound good I had to really crank it and it was LOOOOOUUUDDDD! The patch worked a bit better for night recording. Here is the video demo I did of the ORANGE JIM ROOT head BTW glad you like the BACKING TRACK It will be my next COLLAB! The thing with amp simulations is that you probably have to put a bit of time into coming up with your own presets. For me at least the presets that come with the various products usually don't sound good. And it does take a while to get a good sound if you're not quite used to it... or know what you're doing (I don't!). But if you're going to play with it in a band situation, hmm... then perhaps you're better off looking for an amp. I don't know what $1000+ gets you. Ï had a Laney half stack which I liked. Still have it, just not here in my apartment. It's in my parents' house. That's sorta why I mentioned that I've got four threads here on GMC packed with spiff custom presets Amplitude, Overloud, Guitar Rig, all free for the downloading in my forum board Here is the OVERLOUD TH1 archive https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...amp;hl=overloud Here is the OVERLOUD TH2 archive. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...amp;hl=overloud Todd Hi mate! I'm with Todd about this. I think that the best way to record by line at home would be getting an ampe emulator, you can go for the software ones like Guitar Rig, Amplitube or many others, or you can also get a Pod HD500 or any other like Boss GT10. Todd talked many times about a some tricks that you can do to get the best of amp emulators, so I would follow his suggestions. You bring up a good point about the POD!! It's the hardware approach to emulators and will emulate not only effects but speaker cabinets and microphones and they are pretty easy to use. Just dial up a preset and bam The stock presets are only a starting point, you'll need to download better ones but that's not that hard and then you move them over via usb to the device. You can also use the POD as a recording interface for your guitar This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 9 2013, 09:08 AM |
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Sep 9 2013, 03:00 PM |
You can download TH2 as a demo for free to see what you think Here is the link.
http://www.overloud.com/download/request_th2_demo.php *Keep in mind that the demo version isn't meant for importing custom presets and such. It's just to get a feel for the software. For Medium Gain stuff, the SCUFFHAM AMPS plugin is very cool and they just released a new version. A two week demo is available and you can install both on the same computer with issues. http://www.scuffhamamps.com/download And some GOOD NEWS about the TUBEMEISTER. They are releasing the GRAND MEISTER!!! IT's the same unit but now can be wirelessly controlled with an iPad It's got midi support and total recal so you can have wads of presets. It's got some built in FX as well. It's got the best bits of a tube amp and the best bits of a midi controlled digital amp. Should be cool Comes out this month here is a preview vid. Alright so I think I'm going to explore this Th2 avenue until I can get that Tubemeister. I'm gonna try and play a few amps before I buy one but on paper the Kettner or orange seems to be the best! Thank you all for your help! |
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Sep 9 2013, 03:56 PM
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IF u play Ass-Kicking-riff-chugging-ball-breaking metal, than my friends, Jim should only seek for True High Gain Valve Amp.
I would Go for ENGL Screamer 50 W full tube combo. |
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Sep 9 2013, 04:58 PM |
I think Jim is rather up for some rock and heavy rock playing as far as I understood
Anyway....guys did awesome job with this H&K promo vid |
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